Ins and Outs - First Final

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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14132

    #61
    Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

    Originally posted by Mantis
    What difference will that make??

    Griffen & Hudson have to come in regardless of what Geelong do,
    Well it makes a big difference on who we might select, Chapman for example will he play and would that make a difference to maybe Addison or Callan coming in?
    Picken on Ablett i presume.
    Bring back the biff

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    • dog town
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 1900

      #62
      Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

      Originally posted by ledge
      Well it makes a big difference on who we might select, Chapman for example will he play and would that make a difference to maybe Addison or Callan coming in?
      Picken on Ablett i presume.
      With S.Johnson out I dont think it will make a difference to match ups if Chapman comes in.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44330

        #63
        Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

        Originally posted by dog town
        With S.Johnson out I dont think it will make a difference to match ups if Chapman comes in.
        It's another bonus for having Johnson out. Ottens however, is another obstacle to overcome.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #64
          Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

          I like seeing Chapman not at 100% in the side. I wouldn't have thought Ottens is 100% either, though neither is Gia and Griffen probably.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #65
            Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
            Here's one for you!

            Boyd out suspended. I hope not though.
            Heard the outcome of today's match review on SEN not long ago.
            Boyd is in the clear, and trip involving Johnno wasn't looked at.

            Off topic but it also mentioned Lloyd is facing 4-6 weeks.

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            • BulldogBelle
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 5284

              #66
              Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

              In
              Hudson and Griff

              Out
              Everitt and Reid

              Both Everitt and Reid didnt do anything wrong, we just need to make space for our number 1 ruckman and one of our best midfielders who is made for finals

              Our backline with Morris, Shaggy and Lake as talls will be short again, but shouild be OK as Geelongs talls arent their strength, their midfield is...

              Hahn played some OK games against Geelong and Brisbane for memory...although he is within the 'Eye of Sauron' for his performance against the Pies...not holding marks, not making tackles and not really harrassing....that is what he is payed the big bucks for.

              Welsh...hmm....what he has going for his is his ability to play forward or back...but against a good side like Geelong and if he gets Scarlett he will struggle playing FF

              I worry about our forward line pressure, Welsh, Hahn, Johno and Minson...they arent the quickest blokes going around...

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              • dog town
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2007
                • 1900

                #67
                Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                It's another bonus for having Johnson out. Ottens however, is another obstacle to overcome.
                Previous game against Geelong we have been looking at a heap of different match ups for the small forwards they use. This time it looks like we will more likely be stretched for height at some stage. Could see Everitt given another game. I suppose we have the Welsh option down back as well. Will be interesting to see which way they go.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44330

                  #68
                  Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                  Originally posted by dog town
                  Previous game against Geelong we have been looking at a heap of different match ups for the small forwards they use. This time it looks like we will more likely be stretched for height at some stage. Could see Everitt given another game.
                  I like that idea but I wonder if Eade will keep him in the side
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • The Coon Dog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7578

                    #69
                    Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                    If Everitt retains his place & Hudson & Griffen return, who could potentially make way?

                    The obvious name is Reid, though he did a great job on Bartel last time, but who makes way with him?

                    Welsh - too important & given he can play either end.
                    Picken - if Boyd goes with Ablett, does he have a match up?
                    Giansiracusa - form patchy, but has credits in the bank.
                    Hahn - important to the structure.


                    A good position to be in, particularly compared to last year when Murphy & Cooney were injured.
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                    • dog town
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1900

                      #70
                      Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I like that idea but I wonder if Eade will keep him in the side
                      I think he will miss out and Eade will pretty much dare them to go tall. If they do get on top we can always send Welsh down back. Having said that I think a bit depends on his plans for Hargrave. If he has a specific small match up for Hargrave then we may have no choice but to leave Everitt in.

                      If I were a Geelong supporter I would be very nervous about the prospect of bringing Chapman back straight into a final. He looms as a match winner we have to stop but I also wouldn't be shocked if he broke down. I wonder if they are thinking about trying to get through without him. They cant win the flag if he breaks down and they may be thinking that an extra week or 2 weeks if they win is a better option. I know Griffen is coming back as well but it will be 28 days since his last game on saturday and that is more than enough for an initial hamstring strain or even a slight tear. Chapman has had a week less and it is a recurring injury.

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14868

                        #71
                        Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                        Originally posted by dog town
                        If I were a Geelong supporter I would be very nervous about the prospect of bringing Chapman back straight into a final. He looms as a match winner we have to stop but I also wouldn't be shocked if he broke down. I wonder if they are thinking about trying to get through without him.
                        They are thinking "the Bulldogs are a different proposition to last year".

                        We have earned far more respect as a contender this year and even Geelong must acknowledge that taking on the Bulldogs with no Johnson & Chapman is a huge ask. I think it smacks of fear/desperation which means we wont be a psychological disadvantage going into the game.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15322

                          #72
                          Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          They are thinking "the Bulldogs are a different proposition to last year".

                          We have earned far more respect as a contender this year and even Geelong must acknowledge that taking on the Bulldogs with no Johnson & Chapman is a huge ask. I think it smacks of fear/desperation which means we wont be a psychological disadvantage going into the game.
                          If Chapman plays and breaks down Geelong can't win the flag. If he is in any doubt he must be held back to a point in time in which they are playing a knock out final.

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                          • Missing Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8501

                            #73
                            Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                            If chapman put Shaggy on him and make him run ,run ,run he won't last long on a large MCG I think they would be crazy!!!

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                            • Mitcha
                              Draftee
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 710

                              #74
                              Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                              Originally posted by Mantis
                              If Chapman plays and breaks down Geelong can't win the flag. If he is in any doubt he must be held back to a point in time in which they are playing a knock out final.
                              Agreed grasshopper, Geelong would be foolish to risk a dodgy Chapman hamstring at this stage of the year. Rocket inadvertantly let slip today during a presser a comment that confirmed to me that Reid will miss out. Very stiff as he has played some good footy and would be well suited to finals footy. Good position for the club to be in at this stage of the season, touch wood.

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                              • Bumper Bulldogs
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 2931

                                #75
                                Re: Ins and Outs - First Final

                                Certainly is a fantastic spot to be in, Do you think that the weather will play apart in the sides selected for the cats, if it rains then going tall would be a disadvantage and also have to put a cloud over Chapman.

                                For mine I hope it is a dry day with no wing, we'll see how they like chasing "bulldog butts" all day
                                BB.

                                Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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