Which opposition player is overrated?

[Missing-Dog]

It's a big question. Whether it be the media, your mates at the pub, workmates etc.

Personally, Dale Thomas is probably the most overrated footballer going around. I could quite easily include at least half a dozen of his team mates but he seems to get more publicity for doing the things that AFL footballers should be capable of doing.

I am very interested to hear the thoughts of other posters.

[LostDoggy]

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I agree with that, Dale Thomas is your typical poster boy who's hair is harder than his contested football..

[LostDoggy]

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Daisy

[boydogs]

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Steven Milne, Simon Prestigiacomo, Nick Maxwell making the All Australian squad

[1eyedog]

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More recently probably Jobe Watson. It's probably not an overly fair assessment because Hird and Sheedy bang on about him but he can't kick, is slow and his awareness is not great at times. He gets the ball in the middle a lot, but everyone else has a player or two in their team who do this and I reckon there are at least 20 blokes from other clubs who perform the same role but do a better job.

[anfo27]

Re: Which opposition player is overrated?

More recently probably Jobe Watson. It's probably not an overly fair assessment because Hird and Sheedy bang on about him but he can't kick, is slow and his awareness is not great at times. He gets the ball in the middle a lot, but everyone else has a player or two in their team who do this and I reckon there are at least 20 blokes from other clubs who perform the same role but do a better job.

Can't agree with you there. I think Jobe has improved his kicking quite considerably & the kid has great hands.

Dale Thomas for mine is clearly the most over rated player in the comp. To get his head on television all the time you would think the kid is a star. Was rapt to see Goddard smash him with a hip & sholder today.

[1eyedog]

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Can't agree with you there. I think Jobe has improved his kicking quite considerably & the kid has great hands.

Dale Thomas for mine is clearly the most over rated player in the comp. To get his head on television all the time you would think the kid is a star. Was rapt to see Goddard smash him with a hip & sholder today.

Has improved his kicking I agree but it is not up to a high AFL standard. His hands are no better than any other teams 1st choice inside mid IMO. Dale Thomas is certainly the most overrated player in the AFL and there a 1 or 2 others in the AFL ahead of Watson. I didn't say Watson is the most overrated, just that I think he is overrated.

[azabob]

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Has improved his kicking I agree but it is not up to a high AFL standard. His hands are no better than any other teams 1st choice inside mid IMO.

I think you are being a bit harsh.
Whats really interesting about this is your avatar is our version of Jobe Watson!!

[1eyedog]

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I think you are being a bit harsh.
Whats really interesting about this is your avatar is our version of Jobe Watson!!

Why am I being harsh? I'm not saying he is a crap player I'm saying I think he is overrated in the media. I never ever hear anyone in the media talk about Cross so I'm not sure how you could draw comparisons? We are talking about comparing overrated players, not comparing similar type players. If you want to compare similar type players, D. Cross Best and Fairest =1 J. Watson Best and Fairest=0. Watson's a good player but gimme a break James Hird when you say that no other player is more valuable to their team than Watson is to Essendon.

[Happy Days]

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Good thread.

Adealaide - No-one; their whole team is underrated

Brisbane - Rich; Don't get me wrong, he is a very good player, but the best kick ever wraps, etc, is just a bit much

Carlton - Gibbs; He is soft, unnaccountable, and just not that good

Collingwood - Maxwell/Daisy; Can't split the pair. Maxwell looks good, but it's not hard to take 'courageous' pack marks when a team mate does the outbodying for you. Daisy tries so, so hard to be mercurial, but just isn't good enough to be so.

Essendon - Angus Monfries; gets literally every posession he has ever gotten through free kicks for high tackles, because the second he feels contact, his feet go dead, and his head goes back.

Freo - They don't have anyone rated whose name isn't Sandilands or Pavlich, who are both stars

Geelong - Joel Selwood; does the Gus Monfries move, except gets lauded as courageous for it. He just isn't that courageous. His disposal is average, and he is the fourth best midfielder in their team. Send him to Melbourne and he would not be getting these wraps. Stokes, Harley, Mooney, Hawkins all deserve honourable mentions here.

Hawthorn - Buddy Franklin; was a star last year, this year was very patchy, and never really took over a game like he should. Brian showed what a quality defender can do to him

Melbourne - See Fremantle. Jurrah is probably a bit overhyped, but I don't think anyone generally rates him as anything other than exciting.

North - Brent Harvey; He is quick, but just not that good, as evidenced by the result of the Brownlow last year, all the hype for no result. Has managed to put in one or two blinders against us, however. At the start of this year, Hale would have won this in a canter.

Port - Danyle Pearce; Has done ab-so-lute-ly nothing since 2006.

Richmond - See Freo & Melbourne. Potentially Newman.

St. Kilda - Stephen Milne; Is just pure junk, small, annoying, and a complete hanger on. The worst player ever to kick 11 goals. Kossie worth a mention, although, in fairness to him, has done well considering his injuries.

Sydney - Michael O'Loughlin; Has since retired, but was always the third best forward, despite Syndey having no forwards better. A good player, but a very overrated one

West Coast - Daniel Kerr; has shown how rubbish he really is after being deserted by the rest of the old West Coast midfield. See Danyle Pearce.

Western Bulldogs - None, all champions. Seriously though, probably Eagleton, Everitt or maybe Griffen.

[lemmon]

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Im not sure if he is rated as highly as he was but Brock Mclean is one who hasn't done much in a while. Was front runner for captaincy a while back.

[LostDoggy]

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Good thread.

Adealaide - No-one; their whole team is underrated

By who? those in WA?

[Happy Days]

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By who? those in WA?

No, by those here too

[anfo27]

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Why am I being harsh? I'm not saying he is a crap player I'm saying I think he is overrated in the media. I never ever hear anyone in the media talk about Cross so I'm not sure how you could draw comparisons? We are talking about comparing overrated players, not comparing similar type players. If you want to compare similar type players, D. Cross Best and Fairest =1 J. Watson Best and Fairest=0. Watson's a good player but gimme a break James Hird when you say that no other player is more valuable to their team than Watson is to Essendon.

Jobe Watson will probably win the B & F this year. I think James Hird knows what he is talking about and i for one agree with him. The guy doesn't have good hands he has exceptional hands. I loathe Essendon & their supporters but i try not to let it cloud my judgement.

I thought Maxwell was over rated too but changed my mind after we lost to Collingwood. Thought he was one of the reasons they won & he gets the most out of the ability he was given.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Hawthorn - Buddy Franklin; was a star last year, this year was very patchy, and never really took over a game like he should. Brian showed what a quality defender can do to him

Not sure I agree with this. Franklin still kicked over 50 goals despite having an ordinary season. He still won Hawthorn a couple of games off his own boot and although he wasn't as influential this year, he isn't overrated at all. Lake killed Franklin in our only match this year but realistically it's only one game. The guy did boot 8 of the best against us in the QF of 2008.

I think Murphy would be our most overrated player.