2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

[Rocco Jones]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

Andrew Swallow won North's B & F?

That young kid who can't kick? Won the B & F?

I didn't even know he got a game each week.

and Scott Thompson came 2nd.

North Melbourne B&F 2009 = Best Clubman Award at a decent club

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

Andrew Swallow won North's B & F?

That young kid who can't kick? Won the B & F?

I didn't even know he got a game each week.

Little harsh.

Swallow isn't the most polished player going around, but he's still a quality player. About the only player worth anything in their midfield at the moment. (Ziebell aside)

[Go_Dogs]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

Little harsh.

Swallow isn't the most polished player going around, but he's still a quality player. About the only player worth anything in their midfield at the moment. (Ziebell aside)

Agree, I actually don't think Swallow is that bad.



Congrats to Bernie Vince too - terrific story his.

[1eyedog]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

]Agree, I actually don't think Swallow is that bad.[/B]



Congrats to Bernie Vince too - terrific story his.

He's not but him winning their B&F highlights the distinct lack of talent at the club at the moment. As per SS, I didn't even think he was getting a run every week.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

He's not but him winning their B&F highlights the distinct lack of talent at the club at the moment. As per SS, I didn't even think he was getting a run every week.

Played all 22, averaged a shade under 20 disposals and about 7 tackles, so you are right in a sense, not huge, dominating numbers.

With Urquhart and Ziebell coming along too, they've got some quality coming through. And don't forget, Harvey and Wells both missed large chunks of the season.

[Doc26]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

Andrew Swallow won North's B & F?

That young kid who can't kick? Won the B & F?

I didn't even know he got a game each week.

He's a better player than Clinton #48 Jones.

He also averaged ~100 Champion Data points per game this season which not many other than the elite tend to do.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

He's a better player than Clinton #48 Jones.

He also averaged ~100 Champion Data points per game this season which not many other than the elite tend to do.

I think Clinton Jones does not belong in the top 50 but I would have him ahead of Swallow. Not sure how much Champion Data points recognise how you curb your opponent, which is Jones' stock in trade.

[Doc26]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

I think Clinton Jones does not belong in the top 50 but I would have him ahead of Swallow. Not sure how much Champion Data points recognise how you curb your opponent, which is Jones' stock in trade.

No it doesn't, is really all about effective offence but Swallow did have a very good '09.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

No it doesn't, is really all about effective offence but Swallow did have a very good '09.

I like Swallow, but anything that that does value how a player's influence on their opponent is not going to accurately gauge Jones' value.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

Congrats to Matthew Boyd on winning his first Charles Sutton Medal.

Western Bulldogs
1. Matthew Boyd - 154
2. Daniel Cross - 145
3. Dale Morris - 133
4. Brad Johnson - 131
5. Brian Lake - 125
6. Jarrod Harbrow - 123
7. Adam Cooney - 110
8. Shaun Higgins - 96
9. Ryan Hargrave - 93
10. Jason Akermanis - 86


Saint Nick wins his 5th Trevor Barker Medal at St.Kilda.

St.Kilda
1. Nick Riewoldt - 642
2. Brendon Goddard - 638
3. Leigh Montagna - 635
4. Nick Dal Santo - 618
5. Lenny Hayes - 603
6. Clint Jones - 587
7. Sam Fisher - 531
8. Sam Gilbert - 521
9. Jason Blake - 487
10. Jason Gram - 463


A 4th John Cahill Medal for Tredders at Port.

Port Adelaide
1. Warren Tredrea - 103
2. Kane Cornes - 100
3. Troy Chaplin - 92
=4th. Robbie Gray - 91
=4th. Jacob Surjan 91
6. Travis Boak - 81
7. Domenic Cassisi - 78
=8. Alipate Carlile - 73
=8. Danyle Pearce 73
10. David Rodan - 70


Sam Mitchell in a canter at Glenferrie.

Hawthorn
1. Sam Mitchell - 170
2. Cyril Rioli - 123
3. Lance Franklin - 121
4. Brad Sewell - 113
5. Chance Bateman - 112
6. Luke Hodge - 96
7. Jarryd Roughead - 93
8. Campbell Brown - 91
9. Grant Birchall - 81
10. Jordan Lewis - 73

Just waiting now on Fremantle (9 Oct) & Melbourne (21 Oct).

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

I'd say Warren Tredrea winning Port's is a worse result than Swallow winning North's.

At least Swallow isn't 45 years old.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

I'd say Warren Tredrea winning Port's is a worse result than Swallow winning North's.

At least Swallow isn't 45 years old.

It shows what bad years those clubs had

The North top 10 was light on for talent

[LostDoggy]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

David Rodan making the top 10 is a reasonable effort. He's a Richmond boy and would come home at the right price, and we need a hard 'outside' type player with okay disposal (who can play inside) -- any interest?

[1eyedog]

Re: 2009 Best & Fairests - All Clubs

Played all 22, averaged a shade under 20 disposals and about 7 tackles, so you are right in a sense, not huge, dominating numbers.

With Urquhart and Ziebell coming along too, they've got some quality coming through. And don't forget, Harvey and Wells both missed large chunks of the season.

Urquhart and Ziebell are shining lights for North no question. Boomer is a very good player but is approaching the twilight of his career and Wells, will he ever be more than a highly skilled bit player for them?

[Ozza]

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Interesting story from after the St.Kilda B&F the other night. Not sure if it has been reported in any papers yet. But it happened.

At the St.Kilda after B&F funstion (players and staff) some of the Geelong players happened to be at the same bar. St.Kilda had their own room though and were in their having a few beers. Most of the Cats guys kept their distance (Ling, Stevie J and others), but Maxy Rooke was blind and made his way into the Saints room and was carrying on a bit. Of all people - Milney walked over to him - grabbed him by the shirt and said: "Cmon mate - this is our function, our night - don't come in here rubbing our phucking noses in it - phuck off". Maxy left without too much commotion - but it was a very awkward moment.