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  • LostDoggy
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    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #31
    Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

    Originally posted by alexxx
    Is this official enough for you?

    CONTRACTED Bulldog Andrejs Everitt is the latest name to be thrown up in trade talks, while Port Adelaide coach Mark Williams has all but conceded star midfielder Shaun Burgoyne is lost to the club.

    The Australian reports that Carlton is optimistic it can snare Everitt, a first round pick at the 2006 NAB AFL Draft, during October's trade week.

    It has been reported that the Blues would offer a draft pick and possibly a player in exchange for the versatile 20-year-old.

    Source:
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsartic...1/default.aspx
    Where is the direct quote from a Bulldog representative?

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    • LostDoggy
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      • Jan 2007
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      #32
      Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

      Originally posted by JH40
      Where is the direct quote from a Bulldog representative?
      There doesn't need to be

      Originally posted by JH40
      "I honestly don't think he will go anywhere, and i don't believe the rumors that are floating around. Just my opinion of course.
      Thats what you said so its not a rumor as much..and I also don't want him to go anywhere. But the rumor is not a rumor, its an offer Carlton have put out there.

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      • Missing-Dog
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        • Jan 2007
        • 3102

        #33
        Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

        Originally posted by bitofbite
        Eagleton and Welsh gotta go!
        Eagle plays one good game in every 5 or so, and it has kept him in the team for too long!!!!
        Welsh thanks for 2 years but your not going to get us to the flag we all want so bad.
        Wight & Skipper time to go...

        Aker can go again if he can get through the pre-season.
        Johno has to go again.
        Tim Callan's hardness is something we require
        Boumann need to get a game @ some stage so we can figure out if he can play.
        What's the point of being hard if you're just going to turn the ball over every time you're pressured. If the rumours regarding Everitt to Carlton are true, I can understand it if Andrejs wants to go if Callan gets picked before him.

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        • LostDoggy
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          • Jan 2007
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          #34
          Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

          Originally posted by alexxx
          There doesn't need to be
          Of course there needs to be.

          Thats what you said so its not a rumor as much..and I also don't want him to go anywhere. But the rumor is not a rumor, its an offer Carlton have put out there.
          This is exactly like the Lake situation, so many different things getting floated around. Yeah Carlton have put out an offer for him, which they are entitled to do.

          But i would like to see where the club has said, he isn't a required player anymore. Or where Everitt has insisted that he wants to leave, he hasn't.

          It's like us coming forward and saying 'We will trade such & such for Franklin', while we might put an offer forward for him, it doesn't mean he isn't a required player for the club or that he wants to leave. Look at Burgoyne for Port, he has actually publicly stated he wants to leave.

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          • LostDoggy
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            • Jan 2007
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            #35
            Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

            Originally posted by JH40
            It's like us coming forward and saying 'We will trade such & such for Franklin', while we might put an offer forward for him, it doesn't mean he isn't a required player for the club or that he wants to leave. Look at Burgoyne for Port, he has actually publicly stated he wants to leave.
            Yeah I understand im sure the club will make a comment next week or prior to trade week about him being a required player or not. I wanna see more of him that we saw vs Collingwood, up the bloody ground. He should be worth keeping, give him that position and see what he can do with it..if it doesnt work out we could look at trading end of 2010, there would still be interest.

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            To assist in the cap, if they offered pick 27 and Cloke or Fisher and agreed to pay their salary for us next year, allowing us room to pay for Hall and perhaps someone else depending on retirements would you take it?
            Im dont think their allowed to offer paying out a salary they are to trade

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            • LostDoggy
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              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #36
              Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

              Originally posted by alexxx
              Yeah I understand im sure the club will make a comment next week or prior to trade week about him being a required player or not. I wanna see more of him that we saw vs Collingwood, up the bloody ground. He should be worth keeping, give him that position and see what he can do with it..if it doesnt work out we could look at trading end of 2010, there would still be interest.
              I agree, don't want him to go anywhere.

              You don't get many players of his size & talent, come around to often.

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              • BulldogBelle
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                • Nov 2006
                • 5284

                #37
                Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                The club has to look at all players, particularly these:

                Eagleton - possibly retire
                Welsh - retire
                Aker - possibly retire
                Wight - retire
                Skipper - possibly retire
                Johnson - retire
                O'Shea - try to trade
                Minson - replace him next year with a junior if possible
                Addison - just not good enough, consider a trade
                Callan - ditto for Addison
                Cross - Trade if anybody wants him for anything you can get.

                Retiring or trading too many players in one go may be too upsetting. I think 5 of these players will have to go.

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                • LostDoggy
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                  • Jan 2007
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                  #38
                  Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                  I can see why Everitt is upset. Played well in round 22 and didn't deserve to be dropped. He was very unlucky not to play finals, hopefully the club can mend the relationship because Everitt could become a very good play. He is 193cm and good players of his size do not grow on trees.

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                  • BulldogBelle
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                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5284

                    #39
                    Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                    Originally posted by James Cuming
                    The club has to look at all players, particularly these:

                    Eagleton - possibly retire
                    Welsh - retire
                    Aker - possibly retire
                    Wight - retire
                    Skipper - possibly retire
                    Johnson - retire
                    O'Shea - try to trade
                    Minson - replace him next year with a junior if possibleAddison - just not good enough, consider a trade
                    Callan - ditto for Addison
                    Cross - Trade if anybody wants him for anything you can get.

                    Retiring or trading too many players in one go may be too upsetting. I think 5 of these players will have to go.

                    Dont agree with some of these...

                    Why dont we just trade Cooney and Griff for second round picks while we are at it?

                    When a team is up, all of the players look good, lets use Sharron Ray as an example (except for last night).........

                    there is lots of improvement in Minson, who needs to hold a few marks, Callan + Addision needs to improve his disposal, Cross is one of the members of the leadership team, our current Charlie Sutton medalist, and an inspiration with his fanatical approach to the game, Aker was burnt out by finals time, and needed to balance his training load, Johno hopefully can maintain his 08 performance....

                    Lets no get carried away, we were 7 points away from a grand final, we have a youngish list for the most part with plenty of upside, and just need to tinker around the edges...

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7483

                      #40
                      Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                      I think Minson will have his best year if we get Hall in next year. He is a very good ruckman IMO and is more than useful around the grounds. Just can't play forward.

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7483

                        #41
                        Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                        Originally posted by Slapper
                        I can see why Everitt is upset. Played well in round 22 and didn't deserve to be dropped. He was very unlucky not to play finals, hopefully the club can mend the relationship because Everitt could become a very good play. He is 193cm and good players of his size do not grow on trees.
                        He also didn't deserve to play in round 22.

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                        • LostDoggy
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                          • Jan 2007
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                          #42
                          Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                          Originally posted by Slapper
                          I can see why Everitt is upset. Played well in round 22 and didn't deserve to be dropped. He was very unlucky not to play finals, hopefully the club can mend the relationship because Everitt could become a very good play. He is 193cm and good players of his size do not grow on trees.
                          Nobody even knows if there is a rift, it is pure speculation.

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                          • BulldogBelle
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                            • Nov 2006
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                            #43
                            Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                            Originally posted by JH40
                            Nobody even knows if there is a rift, it is pure speculation.

                            I'm glad Everitt made these comments

                            I'm glad he and O'Keefe speak their minds

                            I just hope both of them are mature enough to see the forest for the trees

                            They both need to follow someone like Boyd ie work their way up from the bottom, train hard, be great team players, and become super agressive on the field, and fanatical about the Doggies and their football.

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                            • LostDoggy
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                              • Jan 2007
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                              #44
                              Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                              Originally posted by Dog House
                              I'm glad Everitt made these comments

                              I'm glad he and O'Keefe speak their minds

                              I just hope both of them are mature enough to see the forest for the trees

                              They both need to follow someone like Boyd ie work their way up from the bottom, train hard, be great team players, and become super agressive on the field, and fanatical about the Doggies and their football.
                              What comments?

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                              • boydogs
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                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5845

                                #45
                                Re: Club Must make some tough Decisions on Players

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I was disappointed with Tim Callan last night, every time he had the ball, I didn't feel it was in safe hands. His turnover, i think in the last quarter (or second) that went straight to a Saints player and they kicked the goal, was disgraceful. I think he is too slow, and his disposal is not good enough for AFL.
                                That was a howler but I can't recall any other errors, but can recall several important intercepts that he made to stop the Saints scoring. He does need to work on his kicking in the off-season though
                                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                                Formerly gogriff

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