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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #1

    Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

    With the whole window debate and where we are, should we go shopping and top up the list being so close, ala Sydney a few years back. Or take a quality kid wit GC17 drafts coming up?

    If it's a kid, what sort of kid do we need and when would they be realistically coming good?

    If it's a player, what sort of player?

    For mine, as i have suggested in another thread. If we can find the salary cap space, trade down our first rounder to Port's or WCE's second rounder for decent player. Then use the low second rounder on another decent player. Salary cap would be the major hurdle though. But if we cut deep enough, we could possibly do it. I don't see another kid making much difference to the next 3 years. If it doesn't happen in the next 3 years, i'm not sure it will. So let's go shopping.
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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #2
    Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

    its too soon, lets just digest last night.

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    • Desipura
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4344

      #3
      Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

      Well well well, it has been reported in todays Sun &Age that we would be willing to depart with out 1st round pick for an experienced player. Then in the same paragraph mentions Bradshaw, Lloyd and Hall as 2 players we will target. I do not know how these 3 players and a 1st round have anything to do with each other?

      Also mentioned that we would look at Taylor Walker (who I would want). In fact, I would take a risk and depart with our 1st round for him. I believe we have enough young talent on our list and Walker will only add to it. If Tippett stays, it will be difficult for Taylor to squeeze into their forward line. Add Hall to our list and we have an experienced and young exciting forward on our list, could we afford both? Probably not.
      Also mentioned we would look at Mitch Thorp. I would think depending on other clubs interest, a 3rd round pick would get that deal done, he has not proven anything yet.

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      • DOG GOD
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jul 2007
        • 6617

        #4
        Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

        Thorp (other than being an absolute tosser) is too injury prone for me...STAY CLEAR!!!!
        I will never see #16 the same!!

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45508

          #5
          Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

          Originally posted by DOG GOD
          Thorp (other than being an absolute tosser) is too injury prone for me...STAY CLEAR!!!!
          As far as I am concerned he has no value for us.
          Lets hang on to the first round draft pick as well because as nice as it would be to add a key forward we should maintain the pick.
          Lets look at trading one of our own players for a player we need.
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          • DOG GOD
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2007
            • 6617

            #6
            Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            As far as I am concerned he has no value for us.
            Lets hang on to the first round draft pick as well because as nice as it would be to add a key forward we should maintain the pick.
            Lets look at trading one of our own players for a player we need.
            I'm leaning towards this as well. Hang on to pick 15 (unless its able to get us a REALLY GOOD YOUNG KPP).

            We can get Hall for like a 3rd rounder surely.

            Lloyd would be a complete waste.
            Bradshaw wont go anywhere.
            Not sure what value Walker would offer when we have Murphy (and i wouldnt give pick 15 for him..Tippet yes).

            I just hope that we dont jump on some players bandwagon for thew sake of it.
            I will never see #16 the same!!

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 15112

              #7
              Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

              Walker is an interesting type - will the Crows hang onto him in case GC17 manage to sign Tippett?

              I'd go first rounder for Walker if the rumours are true about the drop off after the top ten picks, although an upgrade of a 2nd or 3rd rounder would sweeten the deal.

              Hall would surely only cost us a 3rd rounder (2nd at a stretch)
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              • Bulldog Revolution
                Coaching Staff
                • Dec 2006
                • 3933

                #8
                Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                As far as I am concerned he has no value for us.
                Lets hang on to the first round draft pick as well because as nice as it would be to add a key forward we should maintain the pick.
                Lets look at trading one of our own players for a player we need.
                Agreed - Absolutely essential that we keep our first pick.

                Everyone wants a superstar forward but its highly unlikely that will be found at #15. Best available always sounds like a copout but I think it is pretty much the way to go this year. A quick ball carrying, long kicking midfielder would help - but basically I'd like a team full of Gilbees

                I cant emphasise enough how important I think it is to give our new recruiting team as many picks in this draft as we can. We stuck with Clayton for a long time, and gave him plenty of picks to turn the list around. Its crucial we let the next recruiting team put their stamp on things, and allow them to try a few smokeys, hunches etc.

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                • The Coon Dog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7579

                  #9
                  Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                  We have a new recruiting chief this season in Simon Dalrymple.

                  At least give him an opportunity to see what he can do.

                  Keep pick 15 I think & pick up a defender with size.
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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10247

                    #10
                    Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    Walker is an interesting type - will the Crows hang onto him in case GC17 manage to sign Tippett?

                    I'd go first rounder for Walker if the rumours are true about the drop off after the top ten picks, although an upgrade of a 2nd or 3rd rounder would sweeten the deal.
                    I highly doubt Walker would be going anywhere, but if he was on offer I'd certainly be prepared to part with a first round selection for him.
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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #11
                      Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                      I asked Rodney about Thorp and he straight out said, "No. Fails the dickhead test".

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                      • mighty_west
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3503

                        #12
                        Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                        I just hope we just select the best player avaliable with that first pick, if we can get a tall defender type with that, then great.

                        Word was that we were going to grab Robbie Tarrant with our second pick in the 2007 draft, North grabbed him and we got Ward, now, i know Tarrant has been injured somewhat, but geez Ward is a ripper.

                        Higgins also showed that best avaliable early in the draft is a better option.

                        As long as we don't go for a speculative pick with an early selection, the 2004 draft annoys me, Griff a no brainer at 3, our next two high picks were very risky, Williams & Wells, i know Tommy has taken time with shocking injury, but would have liked to nail the pick 23/24 that Wells was taken, i don't know what Clayton saw in him as a junior, but geez, he looked so far off being anything with quality when i saw him playing in the VFL ressies, a fast athlete for his size, but, lacking talent of any sorts.

                        Take a risk with later picks, but not with the top 20/30 please.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #13
                          Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          I asked Rodney about Thorp and he straight out said, "No. Fails the dickhead test".
                          Makes you wonder how much work journo's actually do before committing things to print??? Obviously not much, Thorpe is tall, dogs needs talls. Ergo, Thorpe is going to the dogs. Do journo's call the clubs at all for comment anymore?
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • mighty_west
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3503

                            #14
                            Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                            Originally posted by Griffen#16
                            I highly doubt Walker would be going anywhere, but if he was on offer I'd certainly be prepared to part with a first round selection for him.
                            I couldn't see the Crows getting rid of Walker, Brett Burton has what, maybe 1 or 2 left in him? Just perfect timing for Walker to take his position.

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #15
                              Re: Draft Pick 15 - What to do?

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Makes you wonder how much work journo's actually do before committing things to print??? Obviously not much, Thorpe is tall, dogs needs talls. Ergo, Thorpe is going to the dogs. Do journo's call the clubs at all for comment anymore?
                              Actually no, they don't.

                              In the same conversation with Rocket I commented about a report in the HS about us enquiring after Marcus Drum. Rocket said, "I'd rather Damien Drum. Not a chance!".

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