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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 15116

    #31
    Re: Save the Lake.

    Originally posted by dogs_r_barking
    I have heard that Brian wants an extra $50,000 on this forum, is this fact or guesstimate?
    I'm guessing it's a guess.

    Fact is he may be delaying for a few reasons - may not even be financial, rather terms for himself or others on the list or coming to the list. All speculation.
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • westbulldog
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2009
      • 1840

      #32
      Re: Save the Lake.

      We are always bigger than the individual. Grant, Smith, West, Johnson and the great Ted Whitten could have got squillions elsewhere at the peak of their careers but never left the Bulldogs - reasons - class and loyalty. A short term setback if he left - certainly, he is a very good player. Indispensable ? nobody is, end of story.

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #33
        Re: Save the Lake.

        Originally posted by Mantis
        Watching & listening too much of what has happened over the makes you wonder what's going on in Brian's head.

        Brian really needs to work out what is important in his life and if it's leaving our club for a little extra moolah he can seriously eat shit & die.
        I don't totally think it's Brian, to me it's more like his manager trying to get as much as he can for Brian, and himself, I mean 15% of $500,000 is better than 15% of 400,000 isn't it?

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #34
          Re: Save the Lake.

          Dear Brian do you want to be remembered as someone who walked to play for Ummmm Melbourne with a little more cash? Do you want to be remembered for playing in our second premiership side and remembered forever?Interestingly those Lion players from the 3 peat are all still involved in the footy industry,Lappin,Scott brothers,Voss,Mccrae,Leppitch,Lynch,Pyke. It just shows that more is to gain playing in successful clubs than leaving for extra coin!

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          • LostDog
            WOOF Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 426

            #35
            Re: Save the Lake.

            hmmm the longer this goes on the more I start to dis-like Brian.... !!!
            Because you cant beat the boys of the BULLDOG breed!!!!!

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #36
              Re: Save the Lake.

              I think we all just need to take a deep breath and stop bagging the bloke before he makes his mind up. Like all of you here I want him to stay and I will not be bagging him unless he makes the wrong call!!!!

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45577

                #37
                Re: Save the Lake.

                Gee, I'm pretty surprised by the animosity being displayed towards Brian here. He is trying to get the best deal for himself and his family, he is doing this with the assistance of his manager, playing football is his job. To not do so would be doing himself and his young family a significant disservice. The club is trying to retain Brian's service for lowest amount of coin possible and for it not to bargain hard would be negligent.

                Brian has about four years left in football to try to set his family up, he then has to find a new job in a new career. Nowhere has he said he doesn't want to play for us, he's just after a better deal and being one of the fullbacks in the comp and absolutely critical to our success in 2010 he has a bit of leverage.

                I'd be disappointed if he left but having a young family myself I'd try to understand. For what it's worth I think he'll sign.
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                • EasternWest
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10120

                  #38
                  Re: Save the Lake.

                  Originally posted by Mount Mistake
                  Gee, I'm pretty surprised by the animosity being displayed towards Brian here. He is trying to get the best deal for himself and his family, he is doing this with the assistance of his manager, playing football is his job. To not do so would be doing himself and his young family a significant disservice. The club is trying to retain Brian's service for lowest amount of coin possible and for it not to bargain hard would be negligent.

                  Brian has about four years left in football to try to set his family up, he then has to find a new job in a new career. Nowhere has he said he doesn't want to play for us, he's just after a better deal and being one of the fullbacks in the comp and absolutely critical to our success in 2010 he has a bit of leverage.

                  I'd be disappointed if he left but having a young family myself I'd try to understand. For what it's worth I think he'll sign.

                  You are of course correct in everything you say. I think the vitriol stems from a history of being f&^ked over by big stars (well, Nathan Brown, but once was enough) and a bit of a feeling that by stalling, Brian is contradicting the "team first" ideology that we would hope would prevail when the team is so close to getting the big job done.

                  For mine, I understand the ire and I partly feel it. But I mostly just feel concerned about the big hole left if he goes. I too think he'll stay. I would think 450k per season has been enough to convince him, but maybe it's the finer details that are being nutted out. I hope.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11962

                    #39
                    Re: Save the Lake.

                    Originally posted by Mount Mistake
                    Gee, I'm pretty surprised by the animosity being displayed towards Brian here. He is trying to get the best deal for himself and his family, he is doing this with the assistance of his manager, playing football is his job. To not do so would be doing himself and his young family a significant disservice. The club is trying to retain Brian's service for lowest amount of coin possible and for it not to bargain hard would be negligent.

                    Brian has about four years left in football to try to set his family up, he then has to find a new job in a new career. Nowhere has he said he doesn't want to play for us, he's just after a better deal and being one of the fullbacks in the comp and absolutely critical to our success in 2010 he has a bit of leverage.

                    I'd be disappointed if he left but having a young family myself I'd try to understand. For what it's worth I think he'll sign.
                    Say the wage of someone in a well off family is $100,000 a year. Brian is set to receive $400,000 a year. In four years he'll have made an extra 1.2 mill than the average person. Surely if that were to be the end of his career he would have enough money to find his next stream of revenue without his family having to endure any hardships.
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #40
                      Re: Save the Lake.

                      Originally posted by Mount Mistake
                      Gee, I'm pretty surprised by the animosity being displayed towards Brian here. He is trying to get the best deal for himself and his family, he is doing this with the assistance of his manager, playing football is his job. To not do so would be doing himself and his young family a significant disservice. The club is trying to retain Brian's service for lowest amount of coin possible and for it not to bargain hard would be negligent.

                      Brian has about four years left in football to try to set his family up, he then has to find a new job in a new career. Nowhere has he said he doesn't want to play for us, he's just after a better deal and being one of the fullbacks in the comp and absolutely critical to our success in 2010 he has a bit of leverage.

                      I'd be disappointed if he left but having a young family myself I'd try to understand. For what it's worth I think he'll sign.
                      I think everyone is just worried about the time this seems to be taking!

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #41
                        Re: Save the Lake.

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        Say the wage of someone in a well off family is $100,000 a year. Brian is set to receive $400,000 a year. In four years he'll have made an extra 1.2 mill than the average person. Surely if that were to be the end of his career he would have enough money to find his next stream of revenue without his family having to endure any hardships.
                        Serious matey you'll get the tired old ''Football is abusiness'' line .Funny thing is I've never cried when a ''Business'' loses.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Save the Lake.

                          Originally posted by strebla
                          I think we all just need to take a deep breath and stop bagging the bloke before he makes his mind up. Like all of you here I want him to stay and I will not be bagging him unless he makes the wrong call!!!!

                          Was thinking pretty much the same thing whilst reading this thread. I'll wait until he signs - or doesn't sign before getting my feelings too involved in the Lake Saga.

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11962

                            #43
                            Re: Save the Lake.

                            Originally posted by Remi Moses
                            Serious matey you'll get the tired old ''Football is abusiness'' line .Funny thing is I've never cried when a ''Business'' loses.
                            I'm not really looking at football as a business more just making the point that Brian's kids won't go hungry because he missed out on those few extra $

                            Brian is starting to look like a business man at the moment though.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • KT31
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5455

                              #44
                              Re: Save the Lake.

                              Originally posted by Mount Mistake

                              I'd be disappointed if he left but having a young family myself I'd try to understand. For what it's worth I think he'll sign.
                              Thats why we need you to get your kids pocket money pop it into an envelope, write a note in crayon and send it to Brian.

                              Save The Lake !
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15547

                                #45
                                Re: Save the Lake.

                                Originally posted by PWebb
                                I don't totally think it's Brian, to me it's more like his manager trying to get as much as he can for Brian, and himself, I mean 15% of $500,000 is better than 15% of 400,000 isn't it?
                                On what basis are you making that assumption?

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