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  • BulldogBelle
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 5284

    #16
    Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

    Originally posted by Remi Moses
    Didn't have Ronji 's avatar playing for them. Wasn't it wonderful to see the german Diver in tears To many Farren Ray's, Raph Clarke's,Zac Dawson's and that annoying little tosspot Mr September Stephen Milne:
    Clarke, Ray, Milne, Kosi and their rucks were very poor. Dawson was hot and cold.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #17
      Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

      Kosi is poo. Really is.

      St Kilda will not won Grand Finals until the have big forwards (of the ilk of Mooney).
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44636

        #18
        Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Kosi is poo. Really is.
        I disagree. The media have overly hyped him but he does play some good football. I'd certainly rather him in our forward line changing in the ruck than Minson.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #19
          Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I disagree. The media have overly hyped him but he does play some good football. I'd certainly rather him in our forward line changing in the ruck than Minson.
          That is my point GVGjr, compared to expectation of course. But against very good FB's in Lake and Scarlett he has been relegated to the status of witches hat in the two biggest games of the year. Not good enough from a Aints perspective I would have thought.

          But he was alone Ray, the tip rat and Scneider all showed their true colours in both thye pre-lim and GF. And Raph who may get hunted down and lynched by his own if the crowd comments were anything to go by.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44636

            #20
            Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            That is my point GVGjr, compared to expectation of course. But against very good FB's in Lake and Scarlett he has been relegated to the status of witches hat in the two biggest games of the year. Not good enough from a Aints perspective I would have thought.
            It's the Kosi is poo comment that threw me. He isn't poo, just not the star that the media tends to think he is.
            By the way, a lot of good footballers have struggled when Lake and Scarlett have matched up on them so there is no shame in that.
            On the little that I say yesterday, Scarlett was once again terrific for them.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #21
              Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              It's the Kosi is poo comment that threw me. He isn't poo, just not the star that the media tends to think he is.
              By the way, a lot of good footballers have struggled when Lake and Scarlett have matched up on them so there is no shame in that.
              On the little that I say yesterday, Scarlett was once again terrific for them.
              Well, Kosi was very poor for two weeks and that manifested itself in comments i usualy don't like to make, and should probably have better exercised my vocabulary a little better. But what good are a pack of flat track bullies who don't perform on the big stage?

              If Kosi cannot compete with the leagues best FB's, then it's a given he wont perform in the big games. Seems a player of false economy here. WIll help slaughter Richmonf and Freo but wont be seen for the pre-lim and GF. Same with the others I mentioned. For all Ray's hype this year, he didn't look like it for two weeks. And Schneider and the tip rat are dead set liabilities with semi decent opponents. I don't think it's easy enough to say he had good opponents though.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Missing-Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 3102

                #22
                Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                Just on the tip rat. Did any one see him go down in the first quarter holding his head after receiving contact to the the body from Ling. Absolutely disgraceful. Then minutes later Schneider clutched at his back after Scarlett brushed past him in a marking contest. It would be unjust if the tip rat was able to play in a premiership side. Hopefully he plays his whole career at Moorabbin and doesn't get the chance again.

                TCD - just read your post on the "Demonstrative Abuse" thread.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                  Originally posted by craigsahibee
                  Just on the tip rat. Did any one see him go down in the first quarter holding his head after receiving contact to the the body from Ling. Absolutely disgraceful. Then minutes later Schneider clutched at his back after Scarlett brushed past him in a marking contest. It would be unjust if the tip rat was able to play in a premiership side. Hopefully he plays his whole career at Moorabbin and doesn't get the chance again.

                  TCD - just read your post on the "Demonstrative Abuse" thread.
                  After St Nicks dive last week and some of the antics yesterday I have lost a lot of respect for the saints as a team, despite their 'Glorious' H/A season they have really shown a very poor side of their game.

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3497

                    #24
                    Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I disagree. The media have overly hyped him but he does play some good football. I'd certainly rather him in our forward line changing in the ruck than Minson.
                    Likewise - with the rucks St Kilda have I guess they pick themselves, but especially in the wet I thought they looked a bit top heavy. If Kosi isn't having an impact at FF, throw him in the ruck for a bit....but with Gardiner & King already there, it doesn't happen.

                    Seeing how little impact the bigs had yesterday from both teams, I spent most of the day bleeding we weren't there - conditions would've suited us IMO
                    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                    • BulldogBelle
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 5284

                      #25
                      Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                      Originally posted by Remi Moses
                      Farren must have checked his calendar hence the performance.

                      It was possibly that time of the month for Sharron Ray

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                      • macca
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2366

                        #26
                        Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        That is my point GVGjr, compared to expectation of course. But against very good FB's in Lake and Scarlett he has been relegated to the status of witches hat in the two biggest games of the year. Not good enough from a Aints perspective I would have thought.

                        But he was alone Ray, the tip rat and Scneider all showed their true colours in both thye pre-lim and GF. And Raph who may get hunted down and lynched by his own if the crowd comments were anything to go by.

                        Ralph Clark got burnt by Shannon byrnes in the last quater, 3 times, resulting in 3 inside 50s for Geelong. He played a good game against us in the prelim, but we now know he is slow.

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #27
                          Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                          Did I read in today's H-S that the Saints will look to draft ANOTHER tall forward? Are they trying to form a basketball team? Or do they realise Kosi is overrated?
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14309

                            #28
                            Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                            I find it amazing we are told we need a forward but 3 of the 4 teams left only one had a really decent tall forward and they still didnt win it!
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11246

                              #29
                              Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              I find it amazing we are told we need a forward but 3 of the 4 teams left only one had a really decent tall forward and they still didnt win it!
                              Geelong - Mooney & Hawkins are good options. Mooney always presents and contests. He's no superstar but he's very handy for Geelong in terms of structure. Hawkins has improved a lot in the second half of the season too. They're both decent and I'd love either one of them.

                              Saints - Agree that Kosi is very overrated. Rarely impacts a game at all and I can't understand the fascination with him. The commentators seem to think he's a good kick; I disagree. He at least gives them structure and in a sense can free up/take pressure off Riewoldt.

                              Collingwood - Cloke has been ordinary for two seasons but I still think he's got something to work with. Anthony's a good second/third option. I am suprised they didn't try Brown in a KPF role more often. I think he's a pretty good player but didn't play a whole lot this year.

                              Whilst most of them are not superstars, they all add/contribute something to the side. It certainly gives them an advantage over a side like ours. There's no doubt we need to find 2 KPF options ASAP. Hopefully Hall + one of Grant/Cordy/Jones/Roughead can stand up next year.
                              W00F!

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                              • BulldogBelle
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 5284

                                #30
                                Re: If only St Kilda had a tall forward or two

                                Originally posted by AndrewP6
                                Did I read in today's H-S that the Saints will look to draft ANOTHER tall forward? Are they trying to form a basketball team? Or do they realise Kosi is overrated?
                                Yeah that was weird! Why not get another two or three?

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