Small Forward

[The Doctor]

I read in a recent newspaper article (sorry can't find the link) that we were interested in recruiting a small forward. I think the quote came from James Fantasia.

That came as a bit of a surprise given all our forwards are small. So I wonder if the Dogs have someone specific in mind or a certain style of player in mind, ie crumber. Could it mean someone like Lewis Jetta is on our radar at the draft?

What could that also mean for our fringe small forwards like Stack, Hill, Lynch etc.

Intriguing!

[GVGjr]

Re: Small Forward

I read in a recent newspaper article (sorry can't find the link) that we were interested in recruiting a small forward. I think the quote came from James Fantasia.

That came as a bit of a surprise given all our forwards are small. So I wonder if the Dogs have someone specific in mind or a certain style of player in mind, ie crumber. Could it mean someone like Lewis Jetta is on our radar at the draft?

What could that also mean for our fringe small forwards like Stack, Hill, Lynch etc.

Intriguing!

I actually view Jetta more as a wingman than as a small crumbing forward but he would probably easily adapt to that position. Typically we haven't used our first round picks on top aged or slightly older players like Jetta but this year we could be changing our focus a fair bit.

Stack and Hill are probably better classed as more of the mid sized forwards but Lynch is very much a small forward at the moment.

[Bornadog]

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I actually view Jetta more as a wingman than as a small crumbing forward but he would probably easily adapt to that position. Typically we haven't used our first round picks on top aged or slightly older players like Jetta but this year we could be changing our focus a fair bit.

Stack and Hill are probably better classed as more of the mid sized forwards but Lynch is very much a small forward at the moment.

Do you think we will keep Lynch? I guess Fantasia is looking at the future with Aker, Johnno now well into their 30's

[LostDoggy]

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Not sure why clubs go after 'small' forwards necessarily. Why not go after a mid sized forward as they have the same if not better chance of crumbing the ball (not losing any pace from 175 cm to 185cm) and a greater chance in an aerial contest?

[lemmon]

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Not sure why clubs go after 'small' forwards necessarily. Why not go after a mid sized forward as they have the same if not better chance of crumbing the ball (not losing any pace from 175 cm to 185cm) and a greater chance in an aerial contest?

Mid sized forwards with the acceleration of an Alwyn Davey or a Cyril Rioli are incredibly rare.

[Rocco Jones]

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Do you think we will keep Lynch? I guess Fantasia is looking at the future with Aker, Johnno now well into their 30's

I think a shallow draft really helps his cause.

I would have liked us to de-list him and then give him a spot on our rookie list spot to punish him for being so lazy but with the weakened draft, that would a cutting off your nose to spite your face kind of thing to do.

I'd keep him on a minimum contract.

[GVGjr]

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I think a shallow draft really helps his cause.

I would have liked us to de-list him and then give him a spot on our rookie list spot to punish him for being so lazy but with the weakened draft, that would a cutting off your nose to spite your face kind of thing to do.

I'd keep him on a minimum contract.

Why reward average performances with an extra season?
We can use the argument that most current players on the list would be better than most late draft picks every year.
I don't really care if he stays or is given the flick but I think the lack of depth in the draft reasoning that's being applied just isn't right.

He will probably stay but on form and attitude I don't think he should.

[LostDoggy]

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I would argue that somebody of Chris Judd's stature would be just as fast and agile as Cyril Rioli, just that carlton prefer to play him in the midfield. Not to mention how much more damaging he would be as a forward.

[Rocco Jones]

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Why reward average performances with an extra season?
We can use the argument that most current players on the list would be better than most late draft picks every year.
I don't really care if he stays or is given the flick but I think the lack of depth in the draft reasoning that's being applied just isn't right.

He will probably stay but on form and attitude I don't think he should.

Fair enough call mate. I really should tag my shallow draft calls with a "correct me if I'm wrong line" to TAC/Under 18's watchers because I am completely unqualified to make a decent call on the depth of the draft.

Lynch's attitude has been awful and I really don't like the message that keeping him on the list would send. Be lazy for a couple of years then pull out a decent couple of games at the end and still survive.

[GVGjr]

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Fair enough call mate. I really should tag my shallow draft calls with a "correct me if I'm wrong line" to TAC/Under 18's watchers because I am completely unqualified to make a decent call on the depth of the draft.

Lynch's attitude has been awful and I really don't like the message that keeping him on the list would send. Be lazy for a couple of years then pull out a decent couple of games at the end and still survive.

I don't dispute that it's not a deep draft but it's still not sound reasoning for maintaining a player that hasn't been doing the hard yards. If the coaches believe that he has fixed that then lets keep him on but if he hasn't then there is better to try someone else.

[Rocco Jones]

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I don't dispute that it's not a deep draft but it's still not sound reasoning for maintaining a player that hasn't been doing the hard yards. If the coaches believe that he has fixed that then lets keep him on but if he hasn't then there is better to try someone else.

In terms of the depth of this year's draft, how would you compare it to an average year?

I know it's being a bit simple but would say players getting picked from 50 on be normally rookie list types? My concern is that we might have a few picks left late in the draft.

[GVGjr]

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In terms of the depth of this year's draft, how would you compare it to an average year?

I know it's being a bit simple but would say players getting picked from 50 on be normally rookie list types? My concern is that we might have a few picks left late in the draft.

25% weaker at a guess but we can still always find some players that might develop into senior footballers with late picks.
If I was convinced that Lynch had found another level with his training then I'd be OK with keeping him but we could very well promote Jamason Daniels who was impressive enough as a rookie this year. Slightly different player but he gives me the impression that he works hard. Lynch has talent and is eye catching when he's switched on but is that going to be enough for him unless he really wants to succeed?

[comrade]

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In terms of the depth of this year's draft, how would you compare it to an average year?

I know it's being a bit simple but would say players getting picked from 50 on be normally rookie list types? My concern is that we might have a few picks left late in the draft.

RJ, at least we know if Malcolm is moved on he'll find gainful employment as either an actor or the proprietor of a candy store

[Happy Days]

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In terms of the depth of this year's draft, how would you compare it to an average year?

I know it's being a bit simple but would say players getting picked from 50 on be normally rookie list types? My concern is that we might have a few picks left late in the draft.

I've been under the impression that the talent is very good at the start, but begins to thin out quickly around the end of the first/early second round (after the first 20-25 or so)

[Rocco Jones]

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25% weaker at a guess but we can still always find some players that might develop into senior footballers with late picks.
If I was convinced that Lynch had found another level with his training then I'd be OK with keeping him but we could very well promote Jamason Daniels who was impressive enough as a rookie this year. Slightly different player but he gives me the impression that he works hard. Lynch has talent and is eye catching when he's switched on but is that going to be enough for him unless he really wants to succeed?

I like what I have heard about Daniels but my thinking is that we can keep him on the rookie list anyway, so we might as well take advantage of it.