Steven Tiller: 2010

[bulldogtragic]

I have always liked Stevey T. I think he has a fair bit of potential and injuries held him back this year. With our defencive line pretty solid and Bou coming through too, should we persist with him as a 4th back, or give him a go forward (as he was drafted to be)?

For mine, Lake, Williams, Hargy, Morris, Callan, Everitt if needs be and the continued development of Bou is pretty solid cover with Tiller able to play back if needed. With Grant not coming on as hoped and Jones, Cordy and Roughy sometime off, Tiller could be a handy target forward. I don't see Hahn in our best 22 next year and I see Tiller more than able to play the role Hahn was playing. I think Tiller has the body to keep getting bigger, a little like Gehrig as a slender HBF, turned gorilla forward. So with Hall only likely to have a few years left, I would like to see if Tiller could move forward, continue bulk and see first hand how Barry does it, with the view to take over his position.

Where do you see him fitting in, in 2010.

[GVGjr]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

For some reason or another the club seems to have given up on him being used or even developed into a forward and I think we might be missing out on something there.

I see him primarily as a defender however, he does have plenty of competition there. I'd like to think he could be used as a FP from time to time playing alongside of a genuine key forward.

Williams, Hargrave, Morris and Everitt are all direct competition for him in the backline and Boumann not far behind him either. There is probably more opportunities in the forward line but I'm not sure if the coaching team see's that as a viable option.

He needs to step up and have a good season next year so that he just doesn't become a regular Williamstown player.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

I agree to an extent, he could be used at times in a FP... not sure he could take over where Bazza leaves off... but definitely could add value. Just looking at the WB site, he's only 22, I thought he was older...

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

I agree to an extent, he could be used at times in a FP... not sure he could take over where Bazza leaves off... but definitely could add value. Just looking at the WB site, he's only 22, I thought he was older...

Tiller was a taken a year early. Although Clayton says it all the time... he said he expected Tiller to be a likely top 10 pick if not taken a year early. So he has been behind the 8 ball for expectation, but internally he has been highly rated and this year was hurt by injuries.

[azabob]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

Massive fan of S.Tiller.
Thought he performed quite well in the last 3 games of 2007 (his first 3 games) as a leading forward from the goal square, so I was quite suprised he was used mainly down back last year. His finals series in 2008 was fantastic. Attack on the ball and man was first class.

To me he is a guy who will give 100% everytime he goes out there.

I think there is a great opportunity for one of the younger players such as Tiller, Grant, Roughead to play alongside Hall. Or will this opportunity fall to Minson or Hahn?

He copped a few injuries this year and couldn't shake them off, similar to Sam Ried.

I would like to think Tiller can and will be in our best 22, wether that is as the 3rd tall in defence or 2nd tall down forward.

Could Tiller being used in defence be due to Williams being injured more often than not?

[Scorlibo]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

For some reason people think of Tiller as an up and coming youngster, even though he'll be 23 to start next year. I like him as a back up player, but he's not in our best 22 and doesn't deserve to be.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

For some reason people think of Tiller as an up and coming youngster, even though he'll be 23 to start next year. I like him as a back up player, but he's not in our best 22 and doesn't deserve to be.

Agreed.

His decision making and disposal is ordinary. He's played a couple of solid games, but he hasn't ever cemented a spot in the side. His game has changed a fair bit from when he first arrived at the club. He's a real hard nut now without having any glowing advantage over his opponents.

Like a few of the others, I would like to see him played up forward at times. The NAB Cup would be a perfect time to trial this. Does anyone think Tiller would be able to play a Max Rooke type of role for us? IMO Tiller doesn't have the polish to be a 'dangerous' forward, but he could provide some defensive grunt that a lot of premiership sides have.

[1eyedog]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

I have always liked Stevey T. I think he has a fair bit of potential and injuries held him back this year. With our defencive line pretty solid and Bou coming through too, should we persist with him as a 4th back, or give him a go forward (as he was drafted to be)?

For mine, Lake, Williams, Hargy, Morris, Callan, Everitt if needs be and the continued development of Bou is pretty solid cover with Tiller able to play back if needed. With Grant not coming on as hoped and Jones, Cordy and Roughy sometime off, Tiller could be a handy target forward. I don't see Hahn in our best 22 next year and I see Tiller more than able to play the role Hahn was playing. I think Tiller has the body to keep getting bigger, a little like Gehrig as a slender HBF, turned gorilla forward. So with Hall only likely to have a few years left, I would like to see if Tiller could move forward, continue bulk and see first hand how Barry does it, with the view to take over his position.

Where do you see him fitting in, in 2010.

Much as I don't want to say that I don't see Hahn in our best 22 I have to agree with you. If Tiller can apply the same pressure in the F50 as Hahn does I think he may provide a better target. That said, Hahn played very well and filled the role we need him to in a couple of games this year. If he can regain his form on a consistent basis I still believe he will be pivotal to our finals campaign next season. I think Hahn has one cracker of a year left in him. I hope he gets the best out of himself because he was a real barometer for the side for a while before he did his knee.

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

Tiller needs to gain a yard or two of speed.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

Tiller doesn't have any weopons. He's OK at most things but doesn'y excel at any of them.

Don't pay any attention to Clayton saying "He'll be top 10 next year", he always says that and none of them have ever turned out to be any good.

[lemmon]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

Tiller doesn't have any weopons. He's OK at most things but doesn'y excel at any of them.

Don't pay any attention to Clayton saying "He'll be top 10 next year", he always says that and none of them have ever turned out to be any good.

I believe he said the same thing about O'Shea

[mighty_west]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

Don't pay any attention to Clayton saying "He'll be top 10 next year", he always says that and none of them have ever turned out to be any good.

I'm not too sure whay recruiters say things like that about draftee's anyway, comments like those "he'll be a top 10 pick next year", "we would have picked alot higher and were lucky he slipped to us" etc, comments like that can bite them on a backside, if these players [like Tiller] either don't make it or don't live up to those lofty expectations, like with Tiller, he's an honest footballer, but he hardly has the talent of what you expect for a top 10 players to be, then it doesn't give you much confidence on recruiters judgements.

The Adelaide recruiters call on Cam Faulkner was a classic, if only we were able to then on trade Faulkner for McLeod at the time!

[alwaysadog]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

For some reason people think of Tiller as an up and coming youngster, even though he'll be 23 to start next year. I like him as a back up player, but he's not in our best 22 and doesn't deserve to be.

Don't know about best 22 but rocket declared him in our best 25 at the start of the 2009 season and was hoping he would be back from injury soon. Never happened

Now he's just had a major op and won't be available for a big chunk of the preseason.

[Mofra]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

I believe he said the same thing about O'Shea

He said that about Skipper too

[GVGjr]

Re: Steven Tiller: 2010

Don't pay any attention to Clayton saying "He'll be top 10 next year", he always says that and none of them have ever turned out to be any good.

I'm not 100% sure why but I think his assessments of why he drafted of Skipper and O'Shea with late picks was that they would have been top 20 the following year.
Doesn't say a lot for the development programme we had in place.