Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

[Mofra]

Howdy fellow Woofers,

As we wont have much discussion until national draft day, I'm wondering where people see the future of young Ayce.

Obviously he is a beanpole so wont be a regular for some time, however whilst being drafted as a ruckman, his HF line work at Willy was fairly impressive (some have likened him to a tall Robert Murphy).

I'm just owndering if the general consensus is that he will still be a ruckman resting forward once developed, or whether he will buck the trend and find himself developed as a permanent forward? His agility could be quite handy as a forward, and he seems to time his leads well as a HF, which is something that is very difficult to teach.

[mighty_west]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Cordy & Roughead will compliment each other extremely well, in cricketing terms, both all rounders, who will ruck & play forward, unlike alot of ruckmen who can tap the ball, but have nothing else to fall back on.

Cordy to me, will be a forward / ruck all rounder whilst Roughy will be a ruck / forward all rounder.

From the limited times i have seen him play, he kind if reminds me of a young Corey McKernan, and for most of that time, he has lined up around the half forward line.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I asked the man himself at a club fundraiser during the year. He says he's modelled himself after Dean Cox and that's who he wants to emulate.

[mighty_west]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I asked the man himself at a club fundraiser during the year. He says he's modelled himself after Dean Cox and that's who he wants to emulate.

A bit like every 17 year old over 190cm modelling themselves after Saint Nick?

[Scorlibo]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I asked the man himself at a club fundraiser during the year. He says he's modelled himself after Dean Cox and that's who he wants to emulate.

I've also heard him say this, but I still think that he will primarily be a forward, with Roughead the main ruck. The fact that he's still trying to emulate Dean Cox (as with when he was drafted) would indicate that the club is in agreeance with this, and has not changed his outlook to suit team needs.

[chef]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I hope he ends up a Tippett style tall forward target.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I've also heard him say this, but I still think that he will primarily be a forward, with Roughead the main ruck.

I tend to hope the opposite occurs. Roughead to me, is more like a Tippett style player, a real power athlete. Cordy, the more agile and mobile of the pair. I see Roughead being more suited to a key forward role and can play ruck, and Ayce doing it the other way around.

Roughead will need to work on his marking a lot to get to where Tippett is, but like Tippett could play his first year or two through the ruck, resting forward before developing into a full time forward.

With Cordy's athletic ability, he could be like a 205cm, 4th midfielder, which would be fantastic for us.

[chef]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I tend to hope the opposite occurs. Roughead to me, is more like a Tippett style player, a real power athlete. Cordy, the more agile and mobile of the pair. I see Roughead being more suited to a key forward role and can play ruck, and Ayce doing it the other way around.

Roughead will need to work on his marking a lot to get to where Tippett is, but like Tippett could play his first year or two through the ruck, resting forward before developing into a full time forward.

With Cordy's athletic ability, he could be like a 205cm, 4th midfielder, which would be fantastic for us.

Tippett has always had the ability to mark the ball(thanks to a basketball background, Cordy shares this). Hopefully Roughead turns out a better forward than Minson has.

[Mofra]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Hopefully Roughead turns out a better forward than Minson has.

He did take a big grab in the finals with Willy, so there is hope.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Tippett has always had the ability to mark the ball(thanks to a basketball background, Cordy shares this). Hopefully Roughead turns out a better forward than Minson has.

Not sure I can agree with that. Living in Adelaide I see almost every Crows game, so have seen just about every game he's played since he debuted, and imo he definitely did not always have the ability to mark, although he did have a good set of hands, and leap up at the ball.

The fact is the Crows gave good opportunities to all of Maric, Griffin and Tippett over the past few seasons in the forward line, and towards the end of 2008 it became clear that Tippett was the man who'd be able to do the most damage, and hence from 2009 he started to play permanent forward.

He had some basic tools, but was not a certainty for a KF role from the get go.

To me Roughead is very similar, he has good hands, not a bad leap, and is a powerful bloke. Roughead did also play at FF at TAC level, as well as ruck.

[GVGjr]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

I asked the man himself at a club fundraiser during the year. He says he's modelled himself after Dean Cox and that's who he wants to emulate.

Young Reece Cordy used to get on BF and say the same things a couple of years back.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Not sure I can agree with that. Living in Adelaide I see almost every Crows game, so have seen just about every game he's played since he debuted, and imo he definitely did not always have the ability to mark, although he did have a good set of hands, and leap up at the ball.

The fact is the Crows gave good opportunities to all of Maric, Griffin and Tippett over the past few seasons in the forward line, and towards the end of 2008 it became clear that Tippett was the man who'd be able to do the most damage, and hence from 2009 he started to play permanent forward.

He had some basic tools, but was not a certainty for a KF role from the get go.

To me Roughead is very similar, he has good hands, not a bad leap, and is a powerful bloke. Roughead did also play at FF at TAC level, as well as ruck.

Agree re Tippet. It took him a couple of years to find his feet. He didn't look a certainty before 2009 but through getting plenty of opportunity, he begun to deliver.

Not sure Roughead can emulate Tippet though. I'd say Roughead is a footballer first, athlete second. Tippet's the other way around and is very agile for a guy his size. Roughy might be able to pinch hit but from what I've seen, he's definitely got that 'ruckman' posture/movement in his play. Plus - he's a very good tap ruckman. He's already strong, in 2 years time I have no doubt he'll develop into a quality player.

Not sure if Cordy will be a full time ruck though. Been able to play all his junior footy in the role because there wasn't a lot of size difference. He was always able to use his leap and mobility to advantage. In the AFL, I think he might struggle to have an impact in the ruck unless he can really put the weight on. For mine, Cordy looks like being very similar to Josh Fraser. If we manage him properly, he'll probably be a forward first and ruck second.

Certainly have two good young options in Roughead/Cordy. They should work in tandem well. Roughead will be the stronger, tap specialist who can pinch hit up forward. Cordy could be the dangerous roaming forward who can really put second string rucks to the sword with his mobility.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Either way, one of Cordy or Roughhead will be very soon be partnering Wil in the ruck after the retirement of Ben Hudson in a couple of years time. Given that senerio, I think Roughhead will slip into that role, and Ayce will play up forward. Very hard to match up on, 200+ cm and as agile at a 6 footer. Having watched Tippet this year, a bloke that tall who is a true full forward rather than a ruck that can play elsewhere, is worth his weight in gold. I hope Ayce can be that for us.

[lemmon]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Roughead looks like a seriously quality tap ruckmen to me so I'd love to see Cordy work on really becoming a forward first, ruckmen second. His size and mobility makes him a scary athletic prospect and if he can get some meat on his bones he'll trouble many a quality full back.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Cordy - primarily a forward or ruck?

Thought I might re-visit this thread in regards to Roughead now that we've all had a chance to see a bit more of him.

We'll continue to learn more as the pre-season progresses, but based on what I saw on the weekend, I could certainly see him ending up playing a role in the F50. Much like Tippett he has a thirst for the contested ball, and I thought his goal-kicking action looked very good.

Still a fair way to go, but it looks like we've snared a good player.