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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7382

    #46
    Re: Ayce Cordy

    Originally posted by Twodogs
    Apart from anything else his dad never played for Brisbane.






    That flexibility is a strength of the rule. If you want the slightly more secure path of having a club nominate you before the draft, then great, go for it. If you want to enter the draft and go at the highest number you can, so be it. Let's give the kids the option.
    Yeah...but.

    No other draftees have this option. Why should f/s nominees. Plus, if you recall all the talk of Murphy being offered 5 year contracts etc at draft time, it really does open the system up for manipulation. To me, you are father/son eligible or you are not.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • southerncross
      Technical Admin
      • Nov 2006
      • 590

      #47
      Re: Ayce Cordy

      Originally posted by mjp
      Yeah...but.

      No other draftees have this option. Why should f/s nominees. Plus, if you recall all the talk of Murphy being offered 5 year contracts etc at draft time, it really does open the system up for manipulation. To me, you are father/son eligible or you are not.
      I'd prefer to maintain the father son option because it's the one thing that doesn't have to be by the book. I don't care if it's seen as somewhat unfair to others. If it means a past legends son plays for the Dogs rather than another team then I'm all for it. I also really wouldn't really want to see Garry Ablett junior player for any other team in the AFL either.
      Bulldog Pride will never die

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      • The Coon Dog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7579

        #48
        Re: Ayce Cordy

        Probably digressing a little.

        How many AFL players at present had fathers play for Footscray?

        I can think of 5.

        Luke Darcy - David Darcy
        Cameron Wight - Terry Wight
        Ryan Hargrave - Stephen Hargrave
        Ben Reid - Bruce Reid
        Tim Boyle - Stephen Boyle
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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #49
          Re: Ayce Cordy

          Jake Edwards - Butch Edwards - Arthur Edwards

          Arthur's father-in-law - Butch's grandfather - was Dolly Aked.

          Jake Edwards would have a been fourth generation Bulldog player.

          Shane O'Bree is also arthur Edwards grandson.


          Gilmour of Freo is the grandson of premiership player Brian Gilmour.

          There was also a Crows player who was the grandson of a Bulldog player as well. Might have been Chris McDermott but I'm not sure. Twodogs will know.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27658

            #50
            Re: Ayce Cordy

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            Jake Edwards - Butch Edwards - Arthur Edwards

            Arthur's father-in-law - Butch's grandfather - was Dolly Aked.

            Jake Edwards would have a been fourth generation Bulldog player.

            Shane O'Bree is also arthur Edwards grandson.


            Gilmour of Freo is the grandson of premiership player Brian Gilmour.

            There was also a Crows player who was the grandson of a Bulldog player as well. Might have been Chris McDermott but I'm not sure. Twodogs will know.


            Think it was McDermott.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              #51
              Re: Ayce Cordy

              Young Ayce has managed to pick himself up an U16 AIS scholarship.

              The boy must be able to play.

              It figures that they change the rules just when we look like getting a good one.

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7382

                #52
                Re: Ayce Cordy

                AIS Scholarship holders average height hit 191cm's last year...The only ones I know of for next years intake are both close to 200cms. It is becoming a scholarship for being tall, rather than for playing football.
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27658

                  #53
                  Re: Ayce Cordy

                  Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                  Young Ayce has managed to pick himself up an U16 AIS scholarship.

                  The boy must be able to play.

                  It figures that they change the rules just when we look like getting a good one.


                  Yep. The really annoying thing is this rule will last one, two, maybe three drafts until the public wake up to what's happening and demand it gets changed back again. We'll get shafted and then when Collingwood or someone misses out on a player there'll be uproar and the weak willed AFL will fold.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Dry Rot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6450

                    #54
                    Re: Ayce Cordy

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    Yep. The really annoying thing is this rule will last one, two, maybe three drafts until the public wake up to what's happening and demand it gets changed back again. We'll get shafted and then when Collingwood or someone misses out on a player there'll be uproar and the weak willed AFL will fold.
                    How does the new F&S rule work?
                    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                    • Bulldog Revolution
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3928

                      #55
                      Re: Ayce Cordy

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Yep. The really annoying thing is this rule will last one, two, maybe three drafts until the public wake up to what's happening and demand it gets changed back again. We'll get shafted and then when Collingwood or someone misses out on a player there'll be uproar and the weak willed AFL will fold.
                      Couldn't agree more Twodogs - it will be just like losing Tony McGuiness and Kym Koster for nothing, whilst Essendon lose Todd Ridley and end up with Lloyd (I'll whinge about it for years).

                      But seriously this idea of bidding for players is just garbage - the full time professional recruiting managers have a hard enough time assessing talent and few can ever explain why certain players are not drafted earlier (Aaron Davey, Chris Grant, Leon Cameron). I believe teams should be sacrificing their 4th to 5th round pick for a father son - the lowest value picks available.

                      Its nice to keep some romance in the game and it would be a shame to see the sons of a Doug Hawkins, Steve Wallis, Liberatore etc etc play for another club

                      Ayce belongs with the Dogs

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        #56
                        Re: Ayce Cordy

                        Originally posted by Dry Rot
                        How does the new F&S rule work?

                        I'll try to summarise it as simply as possible and the best way to do that is by example.


                        If the Bulldogs decided that they wanted to draft Chris Grant Jnr under the father son rule, the other clubs have the option to use one of their draft picks to pick him up.

                        If Essendon decide that they will use their 1st round draft pick, the Bulldogs need to use their NEXT draft pick after Essendon's pick.

                        So if Essendon had pick 4, and we had pick 5 in the 1st round, then we would need to use our pick 5

                        If Essendon had pick 4, and we had pick 3, we would need to use pick 19 (3rd pick in Round 2).


                        So in summary, the Bulldogs have to use their next draft pick after the highest pick bidded by any other club.


                        Hope that helps.


                        The question I have is, if no other club puts up a bid to draft the player, what pick would the Bulldogs have to use.

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14634

                          #57
                          Re: Ayce Cordy

                          Jay Clarke was saying Ayce has a 3 year deal at over 400k a year from one of the Queensland teams being offered.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #58
                            Re: Ayce Cordy

                            Originally posted by chef
                            Jay Clarke was saying Ayce has a 3 year deal at over 400k a year from one of the Queensland teams being offered.
                            Deal. Swap for Martin or Lynch with a pick.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 18049

                              #59
                              Re: Ayce Cordy

                              Wow. Take it and run, Ayce. Does he have the same manager as Liam Jones?

                              Makes me sad, though. I want to keep him
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • lemmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6528

                                #60
                                Re: Ayce Cordy

                                I'd imagine someone is pulling Jay's leg surely

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