Will we make the top 4?

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #31
    Re: Will we make the top 4?

    Originally posted by comrade
    It was undoubtedly disappointing, but I don't think it will be devastating in regards to our final ladder position. We still have 5 losses to play with for the rest of the season and we've had a tough draw so there should be some respite.

    It's still early and our destiny is in our own hands.
    Hope you're right.

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18027

      #32
      Re: Will we make the top 4?

      Originally posted by frank
      Hope you're right.
      Me too.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #33
        Re: Will we make the top 4?

        I voted no based on our overall form thus far. We're gonna need to pick up our performance to get wins we need.
        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18027

          #34
          Re: Will we make the top 4?

          Originally posted by AndrewP6
          We're gonna need to pick up our performance to get wins we need.
          Why don't you think we can?
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • The Adelaide Connection
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2009
            • 2780

            #35
            Re: Will we make the top 4?

            Re: Sydney
            I think they will certainly be a bolter into the eight this year, but so far they have only faced Adelaide and North Melbourne away from home. I think at the SCG they have one of the best home ground advantages (due to the dimensions of the field).

            Beating the Lions and narrowly losing to the Saints at home probably underlines their improvement, but I think it is WAY too early to be talking about them as a top four side when they still have away games against Geelong, Dogs (Canberra), Port, Carlton, Freo and the Lions. They also play Geelong and Collingwood at ANZ instead of the SCG (which you would have to see as a win for the visitors).

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            • FrediKanoute
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2007
              • 3826

              #36
              Re: Will we make the top 4?

              No. I don't think we are playing well enough at the momoent and we would need to have a major change in form/attitude in order to make the top 4. From what I have seen the Saints are shoe-ins for a top 4 spot. I think Collingwood will hold their spot and same with Freo. I expect Geelong to sneak in and displace Sydney, so it means that it makes it hard to see who we will displace. Freo possibly?

              One things for certain though having lost 3 in 6 we can only really lose anoth 2-3 game and expect to make the top 4. Maybe 4 at the most.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                #37
                Re: Will we make the top 4?

                Originally posted by comrade
                Why don't you think we can?
                I voted based on current form. I think with the improvement of Freo, Melbourne, and the upset wins that have already happened, things are very even. I haven't seen much this year to show that we're up there with the Cats, Saints and Pies. We dropped matches we should've won, and haven't looked that great all that often.

                That said. I hope that we get Picken, Ward, Boyd back and firing soon... I hope Murph is able to arrest his form slump soon... I hope Bazza and the rest of the forwards start to work in synch soon (Eade has said it'll take time)...I hope Roughy, Everitt and Grant are able to get more game time and show their improvement...

                Maybe I just need a dose of Monty Python's "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life"....
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18027

                  #38
                  Re: Will we make the top 4?

                  Most who have voted no have said that our form needs to improve if we're going to make top 4. By voting in the negative, you obviously don't think a change in form can occur. I'm interested to know why?
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #39
                    Re: Will we make the top 4?

                    I voted no.

                    In comparison to the other mature teams we've played this year our fitness seems well below the mark. We've been badly beaten in 4th quarters by Collingwood, Brisbane, St Kilda, and Eade even conceded we were out on our feet at 3/4 time against an 0-6 Adelaide. I feel unless we can increase our running capabilities, whether that be by selecting more runners and being a shorter team again, or putting the players through a heavier training phase over the coming weeks (which runs the risk of dropping more games) I can't see us being able to run out 4 quarters well enough to beat enough top 8 sides.
                    [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                    • The Adelaide Connection
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2780

                      #40
                      Re: Will we make the top 4?

                      Re: St. Kilda

                      I remember a few years ago a game where a pretty hopeless Richmond outfit came up against the Crows (who I think were unbeaten on top) and they played an ultra flood, 17 men in defence type of gamestyle that the Saints used on us. Friday nights game actually felt like that to me, like a bottom of the table club playing a top of the table club...conceding that the other team are better but hoping to get enough scraps to sneak an against the odds win. Did anyone else feel like that?

                      So why did a team sitting at 4-1 and with a team who are premiership favourites play like this against a team who, despite the hype and obvious talent, haven't been playing all that well? They should have come out with the intentions of going for the jugula and preying on our average form of late.

                      If I were a Saints supporter alarm bells would be ringing. Do they still think they are the best side in the comp? Has losing NR been a huge psychological blow as well as a huge personnel blow?

                      Call me crazy but I think they have more problems than we do.

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6932

                        #41
                        Re: Will we make the top 4?

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        In comparison to the other mature teams we've played this year our fitness seems well below the mark.
                        Is it a lack of fitness or a lack of runners in the 22? We have obviously been compromised with a few injuries to midifelders/runners but we definitely look top heavy atm.

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                        • The Pie Man
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2008
                          • 3497

                          #42
                          Re: Will we make the top 4?

                          I have us on 14 wins - can see us losing twice to Sydney, Collingwood again, Geelong & West Coast at Subi is always tough regardless of how they're travelling

                          Depending on %, that still might be good enough for 4th - more wins and we should get 4th.

                          Believe it or not, I reckon Freo can pinch 4th. Even with beating us twice, I don't see Sydney finishing top 4

                          The football world and everyones beliefs/perceptions can do 180's in 7 days.
                          Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18027

                            #43
                            Re: Will we make the top 4?

                            Originally posted by The Pie Man
                            The football world and everyones beliefs/perceptions can do 180's in 7 days.
                            Great call. Funnily enough, if we had have taken just ONE of our chances in the last quarter, we'd all be chuffed and able to read the papers over the weekend.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #44
                              Re: Will we make the top 4?

                              I said Yes.

                              I think we can get back to our best and become a threat once again in the second half of this season..

                              If we get the likes of Picken, Reid, Ward (and Boyd obv.) back into the side providing that extra hardness at the ball our contested football will be a lot better for it. Need to improve our delivery into the forward line. Our midfield is top 3 in the competition, but we haven't seen it yet and our forward line structure can be a lot more dangerous than it is right now.

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                              • The Pie Man
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2008
                                • 3497

                                #45
                                Re: Will we make the top 4?

                                Originally posted by comrade
                                Great call. Funnily enough, if we had have taken just ONE of our chances in the last quarter, we'd all be chuffed and able to read the papers over the weekend.
                                Absolutely - heck, at 3 qtr time against Geelong round 20 last year I was convinced we'd blown top 4!

                                So you could say 30 minutes is a long time in football - but to go one further, 8 minutes was long enough on Friday.
                                Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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