Our next captain?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our next captain?

I Have not read every (The Majority) of posts.
In my opinion, and I have said it on many occasions.
Boyd and Crossy, I love em both, are to much in and under players to lead the team.
They create play....
How can they Direct guys as to where to be.
Gia and Higgo are waiting to get into the rooms to comb there hair, and in my opinion, have never showed the leadership when required.

Therefore.
Again I say, Robert Murhpy or Dale Morris are the only 2 candidates for the captaincy.
They Direct from outside, they create play, they are able to see what is happening up & down the field.
A true leader stands outside and directs.
Just like Johnno could even when he was on the field and needed a wheelchair

[EasternWest]

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A changing of the guard is tempting after 3 prelims, going with one of the younger brigade,
as opposed to a continuation of sorts with the captain coming from the older (27 -30) more established group of leaders.

Cooney, Higgins, Ward, Griffin - Potentially very exciting , dynamic leadership group. All A graders. This would be a great core leadership group in a few years time. Just not sure they are all ready yet.

Are you using an iPhone Frank?

[LostDoggy]

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Yep Gia spoke about it this year very honestly in the wake of all the Akermanis nonsense, but i got the impression he was referring to his first experience with leading teams, which was years ago. Gia has not had a problem in this department for a long time anyway.

Agree Gia has not backed out of a contest for a long time

People forget that he plays in one of the hardest position on the ground.

Boyd or Cross could not play his role but when Boyd was out Gia filled in for him with great effect.

Gia might be one of those players that grows an extra leg when he is given responsibility

[KT31]

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Agree Gia has not backed out of a contest for a long time

People forget that he plays in one of the hardest position on the ground.

Boyd or Cross could not play his role but when Boyd was out Gia filled in for him with great effect.

Gia might be one of those players that grows an extra leg when he is given responsibility

If he grew an extra foot , we could play him just about anywhere.

Seriously, IMO he is underated and does perform excellently in his position most games.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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If he grew an extra foot , we could play him just about anywhere.

Seriously, IMO he is underated and does perform excellently in his position most games.

Good H&A player who does nothing in finals IMO.

[Missing Dog]

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I was not bagging Gia just putting my thought across I think he goes missing far too often FWIW I like Gia but don't believe he would make a good captain.

[Greystache]

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Agree Gia has not backed out of a contest for a long time

People forget that he plays in one of the hardest position on the ground.

Boyd or Cross could not play his role but when Boyd was out Gia filled in for him with great effect.

Gia might be one of those players that grows an extra leg when he is given responsibility

He was given responsibility when it counts most, in the finals, and he was terrible.

[Mofra]

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To often players get tainted by something they have done as a younger player and this seems to follow them for the rest of their careers even if they don't do it anymore.

Bingo. Eg. Bryce Gibbs is still called soft because of one contest in his debut season.

[Mofra]

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I was not bagging Gia just putting my thought across I think he goes missing far too often FWIW I like Gia but don't believe he would make a good captain.

I would have Boyd & Cooney ahead of him (age aside, Huddo would be an outstanding choice too IMO) but he did kick 3 second half goals against Sydney in a close one.

[LostDoggy]

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I would have Boyd & Cooney ahead of him (age aside, Huddo would be an outstanding choice too IMO) but he did kick 3 second half goals against Sydney in a close one.

As much as I dislike the thought of Gia as Captain, I would have to concede that he would be a far better choice than Cooney.

Although Cooney has a good and strong on field presence, off field, from what I have seen and he really is not leadership material, unless of course we are talking about a leader of fun and festivities.

Cooney even by his own admission does not see himself as Captain and unless you believe and want something you are rarely going to succeed at it.

This time last year I was touting Higgins although with a poor year last year through injury I am hoping for Boyd in 2011

[Mofra]

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This time last year I was touting Higgins although with a poor year last year through injury I am hoping for Boyd in 2011

If Higgins' year wasn't written off with injury I wonder how much his name would come up in discussion? He was seen as possible leadership material earlier on, he just never seems to be able to put a full season together.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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I have had Higgins penciled in as our next captain but agree with what others have had to say about his season. I think at least some of it might be attributed to his body not being right but see that as another reason to avoid him as a captain choice. He needs to get his own game right first.

I know Gia is highly rated as a leader within the club. He seems seems the perfect captain off field and works hard. I spend much more time defending him than the opposite but he has a poor history of failing in big moments. I don't think it's a great example for the team and individually, I don't think it's good to put even more pressure on him.

Boyd is my pick. I am not privy to what happens inside the walls and if he isn't respect for some obviously I don't know, I am obviously OK for him not to be next. He isn't a natural in the media but we already have a few media heads, doesn't need to be the captain.

I agree that Matthew Boyd looks a standout given his determination and ball getting ability. The inconsistency of Giansircusa in particular in big games should automatically rule him out of contention. I like Lantern's reference to Callan Ward as a future leader to follow Boyd as his aggression at the ball appeals as a future leader of the club.

[chef]

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I agree that Matthew Boyd looks a standout given his determination and ball getting ability. The inconsistency of Giansircusa in particular in big games should automatically rule him out of contention. I like Lantern's reference to Callan Ward as a future leader to follow Boyd as his aggression at the ball appeals as a future leader of the club.

What about how Boyds direct opponent dominates in big games?
Should that be held against him too?

[GVGjr]

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What about how Boyds direct opponent dominates in big games?
Should that be held against him too?

I would have thought that if a player was breaking set rules the coach should be addressing it.

[BulldogBelle]

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Which way is the wind blowing, that's where I'm going. Change of mind due to the bad press on Cooney.

Higgins.

Last year I picked Higgins for captain, but 2010 was a shocker for him with injury and loss of form. So, should that therefore rule him out. Definately not!! Well, not if he is going to come back to form.

No other player has Higgins' charisma.

1. Communicator. Just watch him at practice, he likes barking out instructions, directions and support. Talks well to the press and in forums. Does not slur speech or talk in profanities. You feel confident re him speaking on the team's behalf.
2. Exemplary character. Trustworthy to lead others, responsible. Lives his life with honestly and integrity. Reliable.
3. Enthusiastic about the team and wants to be leader. Shows passion and dedication. A source of inspiration, a motivator. Part of the team.
4. Inspirational. When he plays well he looks like Mr Smooth himself. But this has been lacking due to injury. Looks like a winner. Holds a good posture. Sets a great example.
5. Logical. Looks intelligent.
6. Confident as a person and as a leader. He is a pretty boy and he knows it. Exudes self-confidence. People are proud to be associated with him. Holds head up. Looks you in the eye.
7. Disciplined. Orderly and purposeful. Keeps temper. Has a consistent mood.
8. Committed to excellence. Don't know.
9. Tolerant of ambiguity. Don't know.
10. Focused towards team goals. Is he?
11. Direction. Does he give the team voice and direction. Strives towards excellence. Set an example. He can make changes on the field without referring to the coach.
12. Appears to be cool headed. Is able to discipline teammates when necessary.
13. Longevity and fitness. Will last out at least the season. Not prone to injury. Not too aged. Hopefully.
14. Has a stake in the outcomes.
15. Encourages Teammates. Deals out praise and encouragement when it is needed to lift the performance and morale of teammates.
16. Organises and controls teammates by giving them stirring speeches in huddles or making appropriate field changes during play.
17. Is Proactive and timely in making changes, giving encouragement or criticism and does not wait for coach to tell him when or what to say.
18. Courageous. Does not shirk the issue in play or questions from the media.

Other than Higgins, Lake is sounding better. I remember an after-match function in WA that he attended where he told some supporters off for not wearing the club colours. I thought that was quite good.

Boyd is not skilled enough for my liking, can be inspirational but does too many stuff-ups. Cross doesn't seem confident enough but can be inspirational. Gia doesn't seem inspirational and is too inconsistent.

I guess we should wait until the end of January and see which way the wind is blowing then.