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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: Our next captain?

    Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
    It's going to be Missy, no question. He has a bearing of absolute confidence and swagger that is remarkable in a kid his age. He's the only one who looks like a natural leader.

    Maybe Gia or Boyd to warm the seat in the short term but only as a temporary measure, I'd be surprised if Higgins doesn't slot straight into the spot.
    I'd like to see Higgins serve an apprenticeship first. He is (or was last season) the youngest member of the leadership group. Boyd offers more at this stage i think.

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    • Scorlibo
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 3073

      #17
      Re: Our next captain?

      Higgins gets my vote. Has a really strong and respected voice around the guys, and he will be a star by the time he gets the captaincy meaning he will have the on field leadership down as well.

      As long as Higgins goes when he needs to go, I don't see the problem with having an offensive player as our captain. I rate the ability to kick steadying goals and to keep a clear head in fast play higher than I rate the ability to apply strong defensive pressure when it comes to captaincy.
      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15322

        #18
        Re: Our next captain?

        Originally posted by Scorlibo

        As long as Higgins goes when he needs to go, I don't see the problem with having an offensive player as our captain. I rate the ability to kick steadying goals and to keep a clear head in fast play higher than I rate the ability to apply strong defensive pressure when it comes to captaincy.
        So it's ok for the capatain to not chase or pick up an opponent when we need him to.... Talk about setting the right example.

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #19
          Re: Our next captain?

          Boyd for mine... consistent, works his tail off, and shows what can be achieved through hard work. Higgins a candidate down the track, but too early IMO. As others have noted, he's a bit up and down. And it's purely opinion, I just think he needs more games under his belt (ditto Ward)
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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6924

            #20
            Re: Our next captain?

            I have had Higgins penciled in as our next captain but agree with what others have had to say about his season. I think at least some of it might be attributed to his body not being right but see that as another reason to avoid him as a captain choice. He needs to get his own game right first.

            I know Gia is highly rated as a leader within the club. He seems seems the perfect captain off field and works hard. I spend much more time defending him than the opposite but he has a poor history of failing in big moments. I don't think it's a great example for the team and individually, I don't think it's good to put even more pressure on him.

            Boyd is my pick. I am not privy to what happens inside the walls and if he isn't respect for some obviously I don't know, I am obviously OK for him not to be next. He isn't a natural in the media but we already have a few media heads, doesn't need to be the captain.

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            • Scorlibo
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 3073

              #21
              Re: Our next captain?

              Originally posted by Mantis
              So it's ok for the capatain to not chase or pick up an opponenet when we need him to.... Talk about setting the right example.
              It's important for any individual to do that, but it really isn't the sort of thing that lifts a team, players are concerned with a) their opponent, and b) the guy with the ball. In the case of our team, a) Higgins is their teammate, not their opponent and b) he will be able to inspire with his talents with the ball. More so than Boyd imo. As long as Higgins doesn't shy from contests (which he doesn't) and as long as he is a leader on the training track (which he is) he ticks all the boxes that a captain needs to.
              'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44322

                #22
                Re: Our next captain?

                Originally posted by chef
                With a name like Gary, I really hope GVGjr is a guy
                My mum's name is Gary





                Anybody think co-captaincy could be the way to go? worked for Sydney.

                A Boyd/Gia combo, perhaps?

                Boyd with his work ethic and Gia- who has filled in as captain, with his leadership experience.
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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6924

                  #23
                  Re: Our next captain?

                  Originally posted by Tillerific
                  My mum's name is Gary





                  Anybody think co-captaincy could be the way to go? worked for Sydney.

                  A Boyd/Gia combo, perhaps?

                  Boyd with his work ethic and Gia- who has filled in as captain, with his leadership experience.
                  I think Gia's work ethic is great, just struggles greatly with pressure.

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 17924

                    #24
                    Re: Our next captain?

                    Originally posted by Tillerific

                    Boyd with his work ethic and Gia- who has filled in as captain, with his leadership experience.
                    And sexiness - I mean - media friendliness.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44322

                      #25
                      Re: Our next captain?

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      And sexiness - I mean - media friendliness.
                      Every club needs a face- thats why the Pies drafted Dale 'ladyboy' Thomas.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15322

                        #26
                        Re: Our next captain?

                        Originally posted by Scorlibo
                        It's important for any individual to do that, but it really isn't the sort of thing that lifts a team, players are concerned with a) their opponent, and b) the guy with the ball. In the case of our team, a) Higgins is their teammate, not their opponent and b) he will be able to inspire with his talents with the ball. More so than Boyd imo. As long as Higgins doesn't shy from contests (which he doesn't) and as long as he is a leader on the training track (which he is) he ticks all the boxes that a captain needs to.
                        When we our players to pick their opponents in the last few minutes of Friday nights game to try and force a turnover Higgins was one player who wasn't working hard enough. A captain should be the one setting the example by busting his gut to get to his man and then getting stuck right into the bludgers who aren't. Higgins fits comfortably within the bludger group at present and until he gets out of it I don't think he is captaincy material.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Our next captain?

                          Originally posted by Tillerific
                          Every club needs a face- thats why the Pies drafted Dale 'ladyboy' Thomas.
                          Dale Thomas does have a face but it is not particularly attractive. Medhurst on the other hand...

                          Gia is obviously gifted in the looks department, but Boydy does resemble Christian Bale who made a pretty hot batman. I am not sure why this would make him a good captain but batman was a good superhero so...

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44322

                            #28
                            Re: Our next captain?

                            Originally posted by rwb
                            Gia is obviously gifted in the looks department, but Boydy does resemble Christian Bale who made a pretty hot batman. I am not sure why this would make him a good captain but batman was a good superhero so...

                            This post wins on so many levels. Batman for the win. So badass.


                            Back on topic- GVGjr mentioned that Cooney seems disinterested at club functions, maybe if he was given the leadership he would straighten up and fly right. I remember before he was drafted after West Adelaide had one the Under 19's premiership (iirc) and Cooney was interviewed after the game. He summed it up beautifully, and paid tribute to teammates who were killed in a car-crash during the year. I just thought that on-field interview showed that he had leadership potential. Would be a worry whether he can captain a side and keep his own game on par, but he is surely a talent. Would also go a good way to keeping him at the club.
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                            • Bulldog Joe
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5509

                              #29
                              Re: Our next captain?

                              I think Gia probably heads the pack, but I would also be comfortable with Boyd or Cross who both work very hard.

                              Higgins has a long way to go on his current output.

                              The one I am impressed in for the future is Roughead. Have seen him speak at a function and shows natural leadership. In 5 or 6 years he could easily be the best captain material.
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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44322

                                #30
                                Re: Our next captain?

                                Originally posted by Desipura
                                Nominated Boyd at the start of the season, nothing has changed. Is a true leader and is consistent. Needs to work on his media.
                                Boyd is a standout guy at the club with a lot of tremendous qualities but I'd ask what separates him from Giansiracusa?
                                In an ideal scenario we would have some guys with game breaking skills which most of our better leaders (Boyd, Cross, Gia and Morris) don't.
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