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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

    Can't believe Minson is back in, at least i will get some laughable entertainment this week.

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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10117

      #17
      Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

      Although it's disappointing that Everitt has gone out with an injury, I'm glad that we've brought Minson in, in place of another tall so it doesn't weaken our run.

      Great to see Stack get another opportunity too.



      BAD - have you heard something about Griffen perhaps not pulling up at 100%?
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15335

        #18
        Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

        Originally posted by JH40
        Can't believe Minson is back in, at least i will get some laughable entertainment this week.
        Awesome comment.

        Will had a disrupted pre-season which obviously affected his performances in our first few games. He has gone back to Williamstown and re-discovered his form which is what was asked of him. He deserves to be back in the team so hopefully he goes well.

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14588

          #19
          Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

          Originally posted by JH40
          Can't believe Minson is back in, at least i will get some laughable entertainment this week.
          Bit rough Not a fan?

          I'm glad Big Will's back in and look forward to him setting up our midfielders for clearances(which he is very good at).
          The curse is dead.

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          • mighty_west
            Coaching Staff
            • Feb 2008
            • 3417

            #20
            Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Awesome comment.

            Will had a disrupted pre-season which obviously affected his performances in our first few games. He has gone back to Williamstown and re-discovered his form which is what was asked of him. He deserves to be back in the team so hopefully he goes well.
            2nd that, Will's ruckwork has actually been ok this season, just i guess a few brain fades & work around the ground perhaps has let himself down somewhat, i really believe we need a fit & firing Hudson AND Minson, especially at the business end of the season, Roughead playing a few games here & there will be good for his development, but will most likely get smashed about a bit in September, and Huddo cannot do it all on his own.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

              Originally posted by chef
              Bit rough Not a fan?

              I'm glad Big Will's back in and look forward to him setting up our midfielders for clearances(which he is very good at).
              Not a fan at all, and i still don't think we can win a Premiership with him in the team.

              Having a disrupted pre season, doesn't impact on how your brain functions. Watching Roughy play his couple of games was very pleasing, he did things that Minson would never do. I don't think you can be as one dimensional as Will & survive in today's modern game.

              He continues making the same mistakes year after year, the majority are simple football brain mistakes. He's ruck work is really good, which i have praised him for on this forum in the past. You need to be more then just a tap ruckman these days, something i don't think Will can be. I question his footballing smarts, and still do to this day.

              That's just my opinion.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                Originally posted by JH40
                Not a fan at all, and i still don't think we can win a Premiership with him in the team.

                Having a disrupted pre season, doesn't impact on how your brain functions. Watching Roughy play his couple of games was very pleasing, he did things that Minson would never do. I don't think you can be as one dimensional as Will & survive in today's modern game.

                He continues making the same mistakes year after year, the majority are simple football brain mistakes. He's ruck work is really good, which i have praised him for on this forum in the past. You need to be more then just a tap ruckman these days, something i don't think Will can be. I question his footballing smarts, and still do to this day.

                That's just my opinion.
                Mark Blake is a premiership ruckman and i think Will is at least the equal of him

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6924

                  #23
                  Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                  Originally posted by way out west
                  Mark Blake is a premiership ruckman and i think Will is at least the equal of him
                  Yeah, I often have a good laugh at the 'we can't win a flag with so and so in the side' calls. I'm not a massive fan of Will but plenty of worse players have played in premiership.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18916

                    #24
                    Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                    I'm a little dissapointed Roughead isn't back in the team, his mobility would hurt the Swannies around the ground with no ruckman of note to stop him. And he has some good Manuka form!
                    Assume he is still injured?
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • mighty_west
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3417

                      #25
                      Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      Yeah, I often have a good laugh at the 'we can't win a flag with so and so in the side' calls. I'm not a massive fan of Will but plenty of worse players have played in premiership.
                      Hey, Aaron Keating is a superstar!

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9998

                        #26
                        Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                        Originally posted by JH40
                        Not a fan at all, and i still don't think we can win a Premiership with him in the team.

                        Having a disrupted pre season, doesn't impact on how your brain functions. Watching Roughy play his couple of games was very pleasing, he did things that Minson would never do. I don't think you can be as one dimensional as Will & survive in today's modern game.

                        He continues making the same mistakes year after year, the majority are simple football brain mistakes. He's ruck work is really good, which i have praised him for on this forum in the past. You need to be more then just a tap ruckman these days, something i don't think Will can be. I question his footballing smarts, and still do to this day.

                        That's just my opinion.
                        I think you'll find people more accepting of what you say when you state your reasons as honestly as this. If it's fair criticism in your opinion, then it's a-ok.

                        I think Will is clearly still our number 2 ruckman. I concede that he still makes dumb mistakes, but he works pretty hard around the ground. A lot of time he gets criticised for his mistakes in link up play, but I think it's only fair to acknowledge the amount of work he does to get himself into the position to be that linkup. It mustn't be easy to cover the ground when you're as massive as him.
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11845

                          #27
                          Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          I'm a little dissapointed Roughead isn't back in the team, his mobility would hurt the Swannies around the ground with no ruckman of note to stop him. And he has some good Manuka form!
                          Assume he is still injured?
                          I don't get the Roughead fascination by a few on this forum. I'm assuming it's got something to do with Sockeye's 20 game rule but Roughead didn't do that much against the Crows and only really bobbed up for that one goal against the Saints and now he's able to carve teams up? (this isn't just directed at you by the way Grantysghost) He was good for a debutant but Minson is still the better ruckman.
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11155

                            #28
                            Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                            Yeah, I often have a good laugh at the 'we can't win a flag with so and so in the side' calls. I'm not a massive fan of Will but plenty of worse players have played in premiership.
                            Just talking ruckmen alone, there have been some real uber-duds win premiership medallians over the years. Aaron Keating, Ben Marsh, Ryan Turnbull, Beau McDonald, Matty Capuano, just to name a few. Paul Dear even won a Norm Smith Medal for his troubles. And if Collingwood managed to sneak over the line in 2002 (which was looking highly likely before Aker decided to break the filth hearts with 5 minutes to go ), Stephen McKee would have been a premiership ruckman.

                            As a footballer, Minson absolutely towers all over this mob.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #29
                              Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                              Mario Bortolotto played 21 games and two of them were winning grand finals

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Teams Round 8 v Swans

                                Originally posted by Scorlibo
                                Why is Hahn always the scapegoat? He is still playing better than half the team at the moment. I likened his start to the season to Murphy's a few weeks ago and got clobbered, but really how has Murphy out performed him?
                                I tend to agree.
                                Even when Mitch isn't playing well skill wise, he seems to be one of the few willing to risk his body and work his arse off till the ball is well clear of his area (eg. second efforts). How many times do you see him tackle someone then quickly release them to tackle the next person the ball was disposed to????

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