Round 9 - Team Selection

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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14617

    #46
    Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

    In Griffen and Everitt
    Out Murphy and Hill

    If Everitt's still not right Hill gets another chance. I'd rather give Johnno a week at Willi before he comes back in and another strong game from Moles should see him putting pressure on for a recall.
    The curse is dead.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #47
      Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

      Paul Williams indicated at the coach's breakfast on Saturday that Picken was a sneaking chance this week, but “definite” the week after. That says to me that his spot is merely waiting for him, and if he can get up and fit by the weekend it's his.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14946

        #48
        Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
        Because some posters can't separate emotion and logic.
        Yeah, everyone who thinks Johnno should be in the firsts is blinded by emotion

        Fact is Johnno's running is still elite and he was one of our best in round 5.
        He managed 18 touches in round 6 in an uber-flood, despite copping a knock during the game.
        If he's fit he's in the 22 unless there has been a decent lay-off, and I don't think 2 weeks is enough to warrant him returning via the VFL especially when we are struggling for scoring options to support Baz. Stack is inexperienced so will be up and down, ditto Grant (who is playing HF anyway) , Gia is playing more in the middle, Murph is out & Hahn isn't in great form.
        For mine, Johnno is the forgotten man and will prove damaging as the support for Barry, especially in the games where Barry struggles to kick goals.
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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

          I think Johnno should come straight back in, albiet, playing deep in the forward line and crumbing to Hall and providing a second lead/option for our midfield, we seem to not be offering enough choices to kick to at the moment when the midfielders come streaming into the forwardline.

          It might be handy this week to have Picken to shut down Harvey at the centre bounces.

          IN: Johnno, Everitt (if fit), or Picken (again if fit)

          OUT: Hill, Murphy

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          • stefoid
            Senior Player
            • Dec 2009
            • 1846

            #50
            Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

            Getting games into Addison is a good thing. Unless he is a bonehead, his decision making is going to improve with experience. It has been improving, hasnt it?

            The aim is to go into he finals without injuries playing a huge part - Addison being Pickens understudy is part of that plan. He tagged Kirk on Saturday and Kirk was well down on his normal output - Addison broke even with him on 15 disposals - neither player was influential and that was pretty much what we required from that matchup. thumbs up!

            So we keep playing Addison and think about replacing him if and when Picken gets cherry ripe and in ripping form.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66700

              #51
              Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

              Originally posted by Sedat
              I'm happy to back Picken in to be 100% ready for action being such a dedicated professional.
              The trouble will be match fitness, however, the type of game he plays, ie a run with type, he may be ok. I would prefer he came back via Willi.

              In: Johnno, Everitt

              Out: Murphy, Hill
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              • The Coon Dog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7579

                #52
                Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                Originally posted by bornadog
                The trouble will be match fitness, however, the type of game he plays, ie a run with type, he may be ok. I would prefer he came back via Willi.

                In: Johnno, Everitt

                Out: Murphy, Hill
                No room for Griff?
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                • Sedat
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 11245

                  #53
                  Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  Totally agree that there's a spot for both of them against North but unsure whether to play Picken straight up.
                  From what I've read and heard about Picken, his single-minded dedication to his career is second to none, and I'd be very confident that he has not left a single stone unturned in making sure he has recovered 100% from his injury and will be able to go very close to full rat power on Saturday. He smashed Harvey twice last season in two very tight games, and Harvey was a guy who (along with Wells) toyed with us in the preceeding 3-4 seasons. I'd like to see him in this week to terrorise Harvey and have DFA ghosting Wells. They only have Bastinac as their defensive tagging option (who is a first year player anyway) so it frees up one of Griff or Coons to really break the shackles.
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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15445

                    #54
                    Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                    Originally posted by Greggles
                    I think Johnno should come straight back in, albiet, playing deep in the forward line and crumbing to Hall and providing a second lead/option for our midfield, we seem to not be offering enough choices to kick to at the moment when the midfielders come streaming into the forwardline.

                    It might be handy this week to have Picken to shut down Harvey at the centre bounces.

                    IN: Johnno, Everitt (if fit), or Picken (again if fit)

                    OUT: Hill, Murphy
                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    The trouble will be match fitness, however, the type of game he plays, ie a run with type, he may be ok. I would prefer he came back via Willi.

                    In: Johnno, Everitt

                    Out: Murphy, Hill
                    Where is Griffen?

                    He missed with slight back soreness and one would think would be available this week.

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15445

                      #55
                      Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                      In: Griffen

                      Out: Murphy

                      I guess it's too early to know if Johnson, Picken & Everitt will come back in, but if they do I would have Hill (as someone who rates Josh I am losing patience with him), Eagleton & Hahn as possible exclusions.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14617

                        #56
                        Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        In: Griffen

                        Out: Murphy

                        I guess it's too early to know if Johnson, Picken & Everitt will come back in, but if they do I would have Hill (as someone who rates Josh I am losing patience with him), Eagleton & Hahn as possible exclusions.
                        I would have Hargrave in the gun(especially if Everitt's ready to go) before these two.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6401

                          #57
                          Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                          I'm inclined to think Hill may be first to go outside of Murphy obviously missing. Stack was good and Hill just didn't get into the contest really.

                          Addison may have a role on Wells - and seems a pretty good fit to tag him regardless of whether or not Picken is back. I didn't think Dylan was great on the weekend - but its hard to tell what defensive work he is doing when watching on TV...and prior to this week he has played well.

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                          • Charlie the Wonder Dog

                            #58
                            Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                            Originally posted by Doc26
                            I can feel a barrage of criticism coming from what appears the numerous Dylan admirers on this forum and I appreciate he is filling a stopping role created through Liam's injury but his deficiencies hurt and expose us too often. I admire his determination and attitude but even with this I don't get the push for him to retain his place. Attitude will only take you so far. Dylan's skill deficiencies particularly with his disposal choices and in his delivery by foot and resultant turnovers are not up to scratch for players at this level, not close. I don't believe that we should accept such mediocracy over attitude.
                            Doc

                            Earlier this year I would have agreed with you. However I've noticed a definite improvement in DFAs disposal over the past few weeks - so much so that I am struggling to think of a clanger during that time. Am I missing something?

                            While Liams rplacve in the side is not under seige by DFA, he has more than delivered on what was expected from him so far.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                              Originally posted by chef
                              I would have Hargrave in the gun(especially if Everitt's ready to go) before these two.
                              Form-wise, perhaps, but we need to pump more AFL games into Hargs, not less, to make sure he's getting his match-fitness up and peaking later in the season. Too important to the functioning structure of our backline come finals time to drop purely on form unless it was pretty drastic. Also aware that with backlines so much of it comes down to chemistry, and our senior defenders (ie. Lake, Morris, Gilbs and Hargs, + Williams and Harbrow) have been together for a while and understand each other pretty well, you don't want to shake the combination up unnecessarily, especially since they have been pretty good AS A UNIT regardless of individual form.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66700

                                #60
                                Re: Round 9 - Team Selection

                                Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                                No room for Griff?
                                Whoops, yes straight in if fit.

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