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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66116

    #31
    Re: Teams Round 9

    Originally posted by Doc26
    Resting, as is general soreness, is somewhat down playing it. He's not resting due tiredness. Call it non optional necessary rehab.
    However, if its a groin then it could take awhile to rest.
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    • Ozza
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Mar 2008
      • 6402

      #32
      Re: Teams Round 9

      Originally posted by Fossie 32
      Bad news about Higgins - unfair how some people have bagged him for poor form if he's been carrying an injury too.
      I may be well and truly on my own on this one - but I thought what Higgins did last week was mostly good. When the game had to be won he was in the thick of it and was involved in plenty of our scores - and was clean with his hands off the turf. As the game wore on he looked sore - so I'm glad he is getting a week.

      Good to see Picko back this week.

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      • Doc26
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2009
        • 3087

        #33
        Re: Teams Round 9

        Originally posted by bornadog
        However, if its a groin then it could take awhile to rest.
        Yes I agree with you. I was more indicating that the decision to 'rest' Shaun you would think would be more through medical necessity rather than a MC choice.

        Originally posted by Ozza
        As the game wore on he looked sore - so I'm glad he is getting a week.
        Ozza, what makes you believe the 'rest' will only be limited to a week, hope ?

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Teams Round 9

          Reid
          Higgins
          Ward
          Tiller

          All have or had OP. What is going on with this. I find this totally wrong that a player cannot be seen to be playing under duress yet we keep playing them. Even I could tell Reid was not right last year. Medical staff needs to answer for this in my opinion.

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15321

            #35
            Re: Teams Round 9

            Originally posted by Asylum Ward
            Reid
            Higgins
            Ward
            Tiller

            All have or had OP. What is going on with this. I find this totally wrong that a player cannot be seen to be playing under duress yet we keep playing them. Even I could tell Reid was not right last year. Medical staff needs to answer for this in my opinion.
            Tiller and Reid didn't have OP. They had groin/ hip problems which required surgery. Reid especially wanted to play on through the pain as he wanted to play finals, but as we saw the injury got a hold of him and he had to stop.

            I have been told that Ward isn't suffering from OP (no doubt Desipura will refute this claim), but does have some groin problems which required treatment and then rest which is what has been done.

            Higgins has had some groin problems in the past and may have them into the future, and yes it will need to be carefully managed which is what the club seems to be doing by resting him for this upcoming game even though Shaun is pretty keen to keep playing.

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            • Bulldog4life
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 9607

              #36
              Re: Teams Round 9

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Tiller and Reid didn't have OP. They had groin/ hip problems which required surgery. Reid especially wanted to play on through the pain as he wanted to play finals, but as we saw the injury got a hold of him and he had to stop.
              He was quoted just recently saying how he hid the problem intentionally from the medical team. He now understands how foolish that was.

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6402

                #37
                Re: Teams Round 9

                Originally posted by Doc26
                Ozza, what makes you believe the 'rest' will only be limited to a week, hope ?
                Doc, if you know how long Higgins will be out why don't you just tell us.

                I have no idea how long Higgins will be out - but having the club downplay it as general soreness - and seeing as he played out all previous games I was under the impression he may just miss one week.

                I'm not the man's doctor, physio etc - so I wouldn't have a clue other than what the club puts out there.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66116

                  #38
                  Re: Teams Round 9

                  Originally posted by Ozza
                  Doc, if you know how long Higgins will be out why don't you just tell us.

                  I have no idea how long Higgins will be out - but having the club downplay it as general soreness - and seeing as he played out all previous games I was under the impression he may just miss one week.

                  I'm not the man's doctor, physio etc - so I wouldn't have a clue other than what the club puts out there.
                  Yes, I am sick of the games the club plays on the website with the Injury List. The past three weeks no mention of Roughead, Moles (when he was injured), Everitt???
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                  • Doc26
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3087

                    #39
                    Re: Teams Round 9

                    Originally posted by Ozza
                    Doc, if you know how long Higgins will be out why don't you just tell us.

                    I have no idea how long Higgins will be out - but having the club downplay it as general soreness - and seeing as he played out all previous games I was under the impression he may just miss one week.

                    I'm not the man's doctor, physio etc - so I wouldn't have a clue other than what the club puts out there.
                    Not sure if anyone knows the answer yet to how long Shaun will miss.

                    We can all see how Shaun is labouring in his movement and pushing / willing himself through it each week. His intensity has been questioned when the reality is that his movement is being hampered through a groin condition which he now has some history with. I don't know what the club will elect to do with Shaun beyond this round because up and firing he is such a vital cog for us and the temptation will always be there to play him. I do have faith that a longer term view that benefits Shaun and the Club will be taken rather than rolling the dice with him and rushing him back too soon. This weeks decision is part testament to this.

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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      #40
                      Re: Teams Round 9

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      I have been told that Ward isn't suffering from OP (no doubt Desipura will refute this claim), but does have some groin problems which required treatment and then rest which is what has been done.
                      Why would I refute your claim? Who am I to question you over Ms Ward word?

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                      • The Coon Dog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7578

                        #41
                        Re: Teams Round 9

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        Why would I refute your claim? Who am I to question you over Ms Ward word?
                        Isn't that exactly what you've done?
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