MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15445

    #16
    Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

    Originally posted by Lantern
    Agreed. Boydy to take Swan, Cross to go with Ball. Pickers to Didak, someone else with Wellingham (Callan Ward would have been perfect), maybe Addison/Wood. Edits made to OP.
    I reckon Wellingham will go to Cooney and try to make him accountable.

    Surprised no-one has put some time into finding a match-up for Pendlebury, he is a bloody good player and someone we must keep quiet.

    Great preview Lantern, a really good read.

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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6444

      #17
      Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

      Very enjoyable read Lantern. Thanks.
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • Scorlibo
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 3087

        #18
        Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

        Originally posted by Mantis
        I reckon Wellingham will go to Cooney and try to make him accountable.
        Agreed, Wellingham was excellent on Judd earlier in the year, and he will go to Cooney hoping for a similar result. If Coons can pull another North Melbourne out of the hat we will be a long way towards victory, at the very least he needs to kick goals, same goes for Higgins and Griffen.

        Great read, Lantern.
        'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14946

          #19
          Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

          I remember in the middle part of the game in round 1 we put Griffen 10-15m off the ball, defensive side of any ruck contest and it completely stopped their run.
          Hopefully we consider something similar to this as Collingwood's fleet of smalls are downhill skiiers who destroy teams that aren't concentrating.

          I would have gone Cross to Swan (roll the dice he can run hard to make up for the pace issue) and run Boyd with Pendlebury (as Mantis points out, he can really turn it on when on song). I'd roll the dice on Ball and have him marked just by normal rotation, simply because he isn't damaging by foot.

          I hope we have a strategy to try and isolate our rebounders/better ball users, because if we can do this our delivery into the F50 will improve and make us look like a cohesive unit down there.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • stefoid
            Senior Player
            • Dec 2009
            • 1846

            #20
            Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

            I would like to see Stack place a heavy, heavy tag on Shaw, resulting in a nil-all draw for the both of them. Saying Shaw cant kick is one thing, but his workrate just presenting as an option all the time when collingwood is under pressure trying to clear the ball from defence... We need to close that release valve.

            Stack is never going to get a tonne of possession anyway, and if Shaw is constantly leading him to the ball, he may worry a few contested possessions out of him and snag a goal anyway.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

              Originally posted by Mofra
              I remember in the middle part of the game in round 1 we put Griffen 10-15m off the ball, defensive side of any ruck contest and it completely stopped their run.
              Hopefully we consider something similar to this as Collingwood's fleet of smalls are downhill skiiers who destroy teams that aren't concentrating.

              I would have gone Cross to Swan (roll the dice he can run hard to make up for the pace issue) and run Boyd with Pendlebury (as Mantis points out, he can really turn it on when on song). I'd roll the dice on Ball and have him marked just by normal rotation, simply because he isn't damaging by foot.

              I hope we have a strategy to try and isolate our rebounders/better ball users, because if we can do this our delivery into the F50 will improve and make us look like a cohesive unit down there.
              Pendlebury! I knew I forgot someone.. but having said that, Collingwood have a lot of dangerous players and we could be sitting here listing them all day.

              Actually, I'll still have Boydy on Swan as they both play similar roles inside and out, and Boydy has the pace to stay with Swan and is dangerous enough to keep Dane honest. Crossy would then go to Pendlebury, who is slightly slower than Swan, and they can both fight out the hard ball gets, and Crossy can gut run him off his feet. With these two match-ups I think breaking even is a good outcome as we should outclass them elsewhere.

              You're right about Ball -- he can barely kick these days so whoever is left (Eagle? Higgins? Gia) should just go toe to toe with him and expose him for pace and/or positioning. If Swan gets it 30 times we're in trouble. If Ball gets it 30 times -- meh.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                Originally posted by Lantern
                Agreed. Boydy to take Swan, Cross to go with Ball. Pickers to Didak, someone else with Wellingham (Callan Ward would have been perfect), maybe Addison/Wood. Edits made to OP.
                Hats off to you guys - these match ups seem pretty good! How far away is Ward BTW? Thanks for an amusing (but always knowledgeable) preview Lantern

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                  Originally posted by stefoid
                  I would like to see Stack place a heavy, heavy tag on Shaw, resulting in a nil-all draw for the both of them. Saying Shaw cant kick is one thing, but his workrate just presenting as an option all the time when collingwood is under pressure trying to clear the ball from defence... We need to close that release valve.

                  Stack is never going to get a tonne of possession anyway, and if Shaw is constantly leading him to the ball, he may worry a few contested possessions out of him and snag a goal anyway.
                  This is not a bad idea (putting a forward tag on Shaw), we all know that he doesn't handle it well.

                  Not sure that Stacky is the man for the job though. I mean, he would be if he ever showed any propensity to tackle (other than that one time against Freo in Johnno's record breaking game at Etihad that no one showed up to, where Stacky kicked 4 and him and Hill put on a brutha' show that made us all excited, well the 19,000 of us who were there anyway).

                  Also, a forward tag on Shaw tends to mean that Harry O gets off the leash. I know who I'd rather have the ball in the hands of. Shaw runs to the wings, Harry highsteps straight up the guts.

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                  • stefoid
                    Senior Player
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1846

                    #24
                    Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                    Originally posted by Lantern
                    This is not a bad idea (putting a forward tag on Shaw), we all know that he doesn't handle it well.

                    Not sure that Stacky is the man for the job though. I mean, he would be if he ever showed any propensity to tackle (other than that one time against Freo in Johnno's record breaking game at Etihad that no one showed up to, where Stacky kicked 4 and him and Hill put on a brutha' show that made us all excited, well the 19,000 of us who were there anyway).

                    Also, a forward tag on Shaw tends to mean that Harry O gets off the leash. I know who I'd rather have the ball in the hands of. Shaw runs to the wings, Harry highsteps straight up the guts.
                    Last time we played them, they both got off the leash. And it wouldnt hurt Stack to be given a mission - "doesnt matter if you get 0 posessions and 0 goals, as long as Shaw gets less than 10 very hard earned disposals."

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14304

                      #25
                      Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                      The Aker thing scares the bejeebers out of me this week with the leadership group, head honchos having meetings about what to do with him.
                      Solicitors bought in to resolve it (how workable is it when it comes to that?)
                      Time that probably would have been spent on getting ready for Sundays game.
                      Are the boys a close unit or will this unravel behind closed doors and become a messy season?
                      No doubt a shelacking or even just a loss puts our season nowhere near where we expected.
                      I am SCARED!
                      A win and its a big WOW from me.

                      All coaches no matter how good come to an end when players dont respond, I hope this isnt the game that starts that ball rolling, player unrest, etc, we saw Gia upset, Akers lies, not good.
                      Please, please win this one and not give anyone any ammunition.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Doc26
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3087

                        #26
                        Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                        Originally posted by Magic Griffen
                        Hats off to you guys - these match ups seem pretty good! How far away is Ward BTW? Thanks for an amusing (but always knowledgeable) preview Lantern
                        Suggest Willy this week and assess from then.

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                        • Desipura
                          WOOF Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 4344

                          #27
                          Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                          Originally posted by Doc26
                          Suggest Willy this week and assess from then.
                          All being well, Ward will be playing at Willi 2nds for a few weeks (starting this week) followed by a few at Willi firsts before he comes under consideration for the Dogs

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                            Originally posted by ledge
                            The Aker thing scares the bejeebers out of me this week with the leadership group, head honchos having meetings about what to do with him.
                            Solicitors bought in to resolve it (how workable is it when it comes to that?)
                            Time that probably would have been spent on getting ready for Sundays game.
                            Are the boys a close unit or will this unravel behind closed doors and become a messy season?
                            No doubt a shelacking or even just a loss puts our season nowhere near where we expected.
                            I am SCARED!
                            A win and its a big WOW from me.

                            All coaches no matter how good come to an end when players dont respond, I hope this isnt the game that starts that ball rolling, player unrest, etc, we saw Gia upset, Akers lies, not good.
                            Please, please win this one and not give anyone any ammunition.
                            Absolutely. A coach isn't there to win over supporters, he's there to win over the players, and at the moment, this isn't happening to the degree it should. Hopefully he can turn it around, because I believe Rocket is the man to deliver us a flag, but in the end, I just want a flag. We all do. We've waited long enough and seen enough chances pissed into the westerly wind.

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                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              #29
                              Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                              Good preview and it's time the EXCUSES ended and we take this game. Tired of hearing distractions of Aker and illness and every excuse made it's time to perform

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                              • The Coon Dog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7579

                                #30
                                Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Round 11, 2010 -- Western Bulldogs vs. Collingwood

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                Good preview and it's time the EXCUSES ended and we take this game. Tired of hearing distractions of Aker and illness and every excuse made it's time to perform
                                Thought you liked some of those; the ref didn't play enough stoppage time, it was a penalty, etc....
                                [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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