Team Round 12

[LostDoggy]

Re: Team Round 12

If you think his forward pressure is down you should probably be looking towards what has changed in our forward structure rather than what has changed about Mitch himself.

I have some issues with how our forward line is operating, but I don't agree with that, Scorlibo.

People are entirely justified in looking at Hahn himself. All aspects of his game are well below what he is capable of. It isn't a team structure holding him back; he's just woefully out of form.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Team Round 12

At some point both Hahn and Eagleton are finally going to play a decent game. History suggests it's probably this week. That then saves them for the next eight weeks.

I'd rather they don't re-pay the faith so that the MC aren't given an excuse to keep them in the side.

Terrible way to go about it, but I'll only be angrier if Hahn kicks 4 and saves his bacon on the back of this game.

Based on history if Hahn kicks 4 we will win easy. He is a front runner and plays well when the dogs play well.

For mine i would like to see big games from Gia and Murphy, these are the guys we miss and need firing with the likes of Jonno, Ward, Aker & Shaggy out.

[Desipura]

Re: Team Round 12

Stack?
I said last week i won't go until he is dropped, am I'm going to stick to that. Especially with Everitt not getting a gig

Stay away, Im sure the club wont miss you. Fancy not going to a game because of one player (no fault of his).
If that was the case, I would not have gone to many games in the 1980's as there were a number of players who I did not rate highly that were playing.

I hope Stack kicks 4 and turns it on, big time!

[Scorlibo]

Re: Team Round 12

I have some issues with how our forward line is operating, but I don't agree with that, Scorlibo.

People are entirely justified in looking at Hahn himself. All aspects of his game are well below what he is capable of. It isn't a team structure holding him back; he's just woefully out of form.

He's getting more of the ball, and taking more marks, than ever before in his career, he's using the ball with the same efficiency that we have come to expect (and even taken for granted) from him, and the area of his game which is attracting most criticism - his forward pressure - is undeniably a bi-product of the way we are bringing the ball inside fifty and a bi-product of having a dominant key-forward.

Yet he has become the whipping boy of this forum.

[Bornadog]

Re: Team Round 12

Stay away, Im sure the club wont miss you. Fancy not going to a game because of one player (no fault of his).
If that was the case, I would not have gone to many games in the 1980's as there were a number of players who I did not rate highly that were playing.

I hope Stack kicks 4 and turns it on, big time!

Couldn't agree more Des, we don't know all the goings on behind the scenes especially the instructions given to players. Many criticized Gia last week, yet he was asked to negate Shaw's influence, which he did very well and sacrificed his own game.

[Bornadog]

Re: Team Round 12

In: Wood, Murphy
Out: Shaun Higgins (ankle), Dylan Addison

I wonder if there will be any more changes?

Addison, Reid and Everitt all playing at Willi. Howard promoted to the senior Willi team.

[EasternWest]

Re: Team Round 12

Addison, Reid and Everitt all playing at Willi. Howard promoted to the senior Willi team.

Good news.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Team Round 12

Stay away, Im sure the club wont miss you. Fancy not going to a game because of one player (no fault of his).
If that was the case, I would not have gone to many games in the 1980's as there were a number of players who I did not rate highly that were playing.

I hope Stack kicks 4 and turns it on, big time!

Here Here !
We all get disappointed with some of our performances and selections, but the bottom line is we are all supposed to suport the club not individuals. I don't like some of what I read which really goes below the belt with some of the comments about certain players, fair enough to have a go at how someone played, but calling them things like "duds" etc, I don't like. I too think Everitt should be in the side, but I'm no expert, that is why I have not played AFL.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Team Round 12

I'm realy disapointed with eagleton, Hahn,stack left in side this week, would have like to see Ried,Everett and Tim Callan in. But great to see Wood get a game.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Team Round 12

^^ You were going okay but you didn't mention that Mitch is falling to ground to often when the ball is in our 50 . He needs to lift and supporters who bellow on about "whipping boys" but in reality some supporters look through red white and blue glassess.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Team Round 12

He's getting more of the ball, and taking more marks, than ever before in his career, he's using the ball with the same efficiency that we have come to expect (and even taken for granted) from him, and the area of his game which is attracting most criticism - his forward pressure - is undeniably a bi-product of the way we are bringing the ball inside fifty and a bi-product of having a dominant key-forward.

Yet he has become the whipping boy of this forum.

He's only kicked three goals in the past six games.

He's only laid six tackles in the past three games (including four last week when he was moved into defence).

Most importantly, he isn't having an impact on the game at all, and when he is in form he does.

I watched him closely during the first half last week (willing him on and not willing him to fail) and was so disappointed with him. The Mitch Hahn of last year (with the exception of some games leading up to the finals when he was clearly carrying an injury) willed his lumbering frame to contests and to be first to the ball. The Mitch Hahn of last week was stuck in the mud. He didn't work hard enough and it had little to do with team dynamics. His opponents cleaned him up.

The coach said that he picked the team on 'form and fitness'. Hahn's out of form and keeps getting picked. Questioning why that is does not make Hahn a whipping boy. It's a legitimate question.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Team Round 12

He's only kicked three goals in the past six games.

Goals aren't a great indicator for any player. As long as someone's kicking them.

He's only laid six tackles in the past three games (including four last week when he was moved into defence).

He's never averaged more than 3.4 tackles a game in his career, so 6 in 3 games and 2.8 average so far this year is not a problem.

Most importantly, he isn't having an impact on the game at all, and when he is in form he does.

You should specify what you mean by 'impact', as far as I'm concerned I've been talking about various indicators of his impact this entire thread, and no one has been able to convince me of a serious defficiency in Mitch's game this year.

I watched him closely during the first half last week (willing him on and not willing him to fail) and was so disappointed with him. The Mitch Hahn of last year (with the exception of some games leading up to the finals when he was clearly carrying an injury) willed his lumbering frame to contests and to be first to the ball. The Mitch Hahn of last week was stuck in the mud. He didn't work hard enough and it had little to do with team dynamics. His opponents cleaned him up.

The coach said that he picked the team on 'form and fitness'. Hahn's out of form and keeps getting picked. Questioning why that is does not make Hahn a whipping boy. It's a legitimate question.

I have watched every game this year and I have only ever seen him attack a contest to his best ability, and work his hardest to get to that contest.

My view of him being a whipping boy is naturally affected by my view that he is not out of form and not lacking fitness. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it just seems to me as though a lot of people are jumping on Hahn's back solely to have an opinion.