Bulldog Inaccuracy

[Doc26]

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No stats listed there on our newest forward sensation Mr Lake. Not sure about his approach of creating a wide arc as part of his run up. He does tend to have an arc to his run up but appears to radically increase it when going forward.

[Bornadog]

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Has Grant kicked like that all year or just last week?
It was probably his first game in Subi, maybe the 'Fremantle Doctor' was hard to adjust to.

He is not a good strong kicker of the ball.

[boydogs]

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No stats listed there on our newest forward sensation Mr Lake. Not sure about his approach of creating a wide arc as part of his run up. He does tend to have an arc to his run up but appears to radically increase it when going forward.

Lake must be in the group between 50-60% not listed in the OP. I wonder if the arc is because of his hip issues, and is more exaggerated when shooting for goal as he tries to generate more distance and height on the kick to clear the man on the mark, or even perhaps trying to kick around them

I heard he was nearly a late withdrawal against WCE with a hip problem, so he is not over his hip trouble unfortunately

[soupman]

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No stats listed there on our newest forward sensation Mr Lake. Not sure about his approach of creating a wide arc as part of his run up. He does tend to have an arc to his run up but appears to radically increase it when going forward.

Griffen has a very similiar style, his set shots always end in this stupid looking arc. However, sometimes unconventional methods work, just look at Josh Kennedy, who has taken Scott Welsh's run up to the next level.

[becmatty]

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Lake is 58.33%. He is the fourth most accurate and one of only six players over 50% ratio, with fifth being Gia (53.8%) and Minno (53.3%)...

[Ghost Dog]

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Worse this year (imo): Eagleton, Akermanis, Gilbee, Murphy, Hargrave, Cooney
Inaccuracy about the same as last year: Cross, Boyd, Hahn
Better than last year: Griffen

This is just a general impression so don't jump on me if the stats differ.
Where do Gia and Minson fit in? They seem to be reliable kicks for goal. And Baz of course.

Griffen. What goal sense. A real warrior for us and I will never regret getting him over Buddy Franklin. Despite some incredible freaky stuff from Buddy ( like against Essendon ) just look at him when he tries to take a set shot!.

Gillbee is a real worry. Doesn't he have his own kicking school?

[Mantis]

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Has Grant kicked like that all year or just last week?
It was probably his first game in Subi, maybe the 'Fremantle Doctor' was hard to adjust to.

Most of Grant's shots at goal move from left to right (fade).

[LostDoggy]

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Agreed, has been woeful this year after being outstanding in the previous season.

Gilbee has also missed a lot of shots this year that would generally be considered 'gettable' by his standards.

Yes, it seems to me that those set plays when Lindsay runs past a player lining up for goal from about 50 mts, and takes the shot himself are just not working like last year. I almost have it in my head when I see the handball happening, "well, mark this down for a goal", and have mostly this year ended up quite disappointed. His kicking just seems a bit "off" for some reason. I also agree that inaccuracy will cost us games, which in turn may cost us a shot at the flag. There are a few old sayings that I recall my Dad using....."bad kicking is bad football" which I think probably still rings true to this day!

[becmatty]

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Yes, it seems to me that those set plays when Lindsay runs past a player lining up for goal from about 50 mts, and takes the shot himself are just not working like last year. I almost have it in my head when I see the handball happening, "well, mark this down for a goal", and have mostly this year ended up quite disappointed. His kicking just seems a bit "off" for some reason. I also agree that inaccuracy will cost us games, which in turn may cost us a shot at the flag. There are a few old sayings that I recall my Dad using....."bad kicking is bad football" which I think probably still rings true to this day!

Superb kickers like Gilbee don't become inaccurate overnight. It is more than likely that Gilb will be back around the 65% accuracy ratio (where he belongs) by season's end. If he is to achieve that, he will have to nail a high proportion of shots in the second half of the season.

I am backing him to do so.

[Bornadog]

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Superb kickers like Gilbee don't become inaccurate overnight. It is more than likely that Gilb will be back around the 65% accuracy ratio (where he belongs) by season's end. If he is to achieve that, he will have to nail a high proportion of shots in the second half of the season.

I am backing him to do so.

I agree, he is too good to continue missing so many shots.

[Mofra]

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Lake is 58.33%. He is the fourth most accurate and one of only six players over 50% ratio, with fifth being Gia (53.8%) and Minno (53.3%)...

That's a decent drop, he was 80% last year. Perhaps playing a little further away from goal due to Barry's presence?

[LostDoggy]

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Superb kickers like Gilbee don't become inaccurate overnight. It is more than likely that Gilb will be back around the 65% accuracy ratio (where he belongs) by season's end. If he is to achieve that, he will have to nail a high proportion of shots in the second half of the season.

I am backing him to do so.

That would make me (and us all I would think) a very happy camper!!!!

[becmatty]

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Considering the vast majority of our forward line has been more inaccurate than AFL averages and certainly by their own lofty standards, suggests an improved, higher scoring second half to the season.

I would love Johnno, Aker, Higgins, Gia and Hahn to get their radars in tune...

[Ghost Dog]

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Inaccuracy in front of goal is a real problem for the Doggies. It was most noticable in our last two Preliminary Final losses, where we sprayed opportunities which may have otherwise resulted in a GF birth...

2010 has not seen any improvement in our kicking for goal. And I am worried that if it doesn't improve - fast - our premiership window opportunity may be lost.

Despite a 6.4 metre target, why is it that we have so many players struggling to convert?

Here are some of the main offenders (50% or worse) and their conversion rate for shots at goal this season:

Williams and Hargreave: 0% (two scoring shots each only)
Cross: 20%
Akermanis: 22.22%
Gilbee: 30.77%
Cooney: 33.33%
Harbrow: 33.33%
Boyd: 33.33%
Johnson: 33.33%
Murphy: 36.36%
Hahn: 38.71%
Everitt: 40%
Moles: 40%
Eagleton: 46.67%
Griffen: 47.3%
Higgins, Grant, Addison, Hudson, Picken and Roughead: all 50%
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***Hall, Hill and Stack are the only players at 60% or over.

Where were these stats from?

[Missing-Dog]

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Jarrad seems to really kick the ball from right down on the point of the ball. He's not backing himself to hit the nice fleshy part of the footy. You'll notice that the ball spins very very quickly after he kicks it and it probably hurts his distance - so on the shots from 40+ he is really kicking at the end of his range - so there is less room for error.

Thats my take on it anyway!

Ozza, very good observation. Luke Darcy used to have the same fast spinning motion in his ball trajectory. Luke was not a long kick either, but was reliable in front of goals. Surely we have some physicists amongst the ranks who can tell us why an oval shaped ball will travel further if it has less rotations in it's flight path!!