Ins & Outs - R15

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #46
    Re: Ins & Outs - R15

    I dont think Tim would do well in the forward line. But in another way, if it means we can get Hahn out at the moment. Bring him in.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #47
      Re: Ins & Outs - R15

      Callans kicked a couple of nice goals and taken a nice mark or too in the forward line in the couple of games ive seen of willy this year, and all we would use him for would be defensive forward.

      Anyone think this game is a good game to give Jones a shot (if he goes well tomorrow) or is it to important because we NEED to win this game!

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14965

        #48
        Re: Ins & Outs - R15

        At this stage:

        Out: Reid, Minson, Hahn
        In: Roughead, Williams, next best runner at Willy

        Carlton beat teams with zip - we wont need to replace Hahn in the forwardline with Roughy resting there, Higgins playing there until match fit, and Lake drifting up occasionally.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • stefoid
          Senior Player
          • Dec 2009
          • 1846

          #49
          Re: Ins & Outs - R15

          Originally posted by G-Mo77
          They're both always strapped as long as I've remembered. Considering the width across his shoulders it's surprising to see them so weak.
          Maybe too wide - too much leverage.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #50
            Re: Ins & Outs - R15

            Jarrad Waite isn't back is he?
            I think we would match up quite well with
            Hendo - Lake
            Yarren - Picken
            Betts - Dale
            Gartlett - Harbrow

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15322

              #51
              Re: Ins & Outs - R15

              Originally posted by shifty
              Jarrad Waite isn't back is he?
              I think we would match up quite well with
              Hendo - Lake
              Yarren - Picken
              Betts - Dale
              Gartlett - Harbrow
              Harbrow on small dangerous forwards worries me.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Missing-Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 3102

                #52
                Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                Everitt CHF for Hahn. Surely he would provide more run, pressure and contests.
                Murphy and Grant either side, leading up to the wings, and doubling back.
                Hall, Harbrow and Higgins/Gia oup front

                Wouldnt be so slow with this lineup up front i reckon!

                Aker, Johnno, Hahn....the game speed may of past em

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9876

                  #53
                  Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                  Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                  It could free Lake to go forward if the drop Mitch, Also it should be easy pickens for tommy to Run into form.
                  Maybe so but I still think if Hahn stays then he can go back to cover if Lake is needed forward. It's possible a smaller defender like Addison could get the call up instead.

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                  • Bumper Bulldogs
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 2971

                    #54
                    Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                    Originally posted by G-Mo77
                    Maybe so but I still think if Hahn stays then he can go back to cover if Lake is needed forward. It's possible a smaller defender like Addison could get the call up instead.
                    Yes but it is a healthy thing that we have a "full list" to pick from. It was only 4 weeks ago we didn't have these options.

                    It will all come down to who stands out tomorrow and puts the pressure on the selectors to go with them not the evergreen reliables that we have stuck by over the last couple of years.
                    BB.

                    Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #55
                      Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                      In: Everitt, Roughead, Callan?
                      Out: Reid (inj), Minson (inj), Hahn

                      Is Johnson injured?

                      Unsure of the 3rd person to bring in - can't be Eagleton, Stack or Hill. Wonder who else we have?

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5649

                        #56
                        Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                        I would think that one of Callan or Addison will come in, depending on their form for Willy. As someone said, Harbrow on a small forward concerns me. As much as he has been a revelation in defence, that is not so much from his defensive actions, moreso his rebound.

                        Johnno is not going to get dropped. If he's seriously injured they'll rest him, but otherwise I just can't see it happening.

                        Hahn has no place in the team at the moment, considering the pressure he is applying to the opposition.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #57
                          Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                          Originally posted by The Underdog
                          I'm not sure we have any more pace at Willy. Nobody quick springs to mind that deserves a game.
                          Patrick Rose is pretty handy in the first 15 metres. Always seems to sneak half a yard on his opponents and contests fairly well 1 on 1 and certainly knows where the goal posts are. With better delivery at Willy (wind, rain, etc) he would look an even better player. Whether he can step up to the pace and quality at AFL level, you will not find out until you roll that dice. IMO.

                          Andrew Hooper has the look and strength of a seasoned player but might have to drop some muscle mass to gain that half a yard to be a true goal sneak. Otherwise I believe he will continue to be groomed as a small utility.

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                          • Bumper Bulldogs
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 2971

                            #58
                            Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                            Just looking at some vision of Jonno at the beach today, He can hardly walk. I cant see any benefit in risking him this week. Give him a week to rest up as we will need him later on in the year.

                            No news on Reid or Minson just yet.
                            BB.

                            Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                              In Roughead Everitt Jones

                              Out Minson Reid Hahn

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                              • BulldogBelle
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 5284

                                #60
                                Re: Ins & Outs - R15

                                Just a few comments.

                                Higgins
                                Obviously not playing his best and doesn't deserve his place in the side. I would take the risk that he will play into form and play him again this week. OK, this may cost, but the upside is good.

                                Wood
                                Very good. Can see improvement in him for the remainder of the year. Has to be encouraged. Part of our future.

                                Ward
                                Ditto on Wood. Part of our future.

                                Johnson
                                Should retire. A lot of us thought that he should have retired at the end of last year. Will just continue to get injured, will not regain his best form. Will be a liability to the team. Doesn't hold his end up. Is keeping out a good player like Everitt or maybe Hooper or Rose. Any one of those in the team instead of Johnno and we would have won.

                                Everitt
                                His form with Williamstown is one of a class player. Accurate and good long and short kicking. Positions himself well. Should have been in the team ages ago. Can't understand why he is left out. He oozes class. Is there a personal issue here? Part of our future.

                                Hooper
                                May be that nippy forward we are looking for. Worth a try one week.

                                Rose
                                He is just one of those unfashionable players who gets to where the ball is rather than where it 'aint. You got to be a good player to be captain of Williamstown, the top VFL side. You got to be a good player to be Captain of the VFL side. Worth a try as a small forward. Is better than now Brad Johnson.

                                Hahn
                                Badly out of form. But this has been known for some time. Its not like he has been coming back from injury and will be played into form. He just fell out of form. Has to be dropped. Has to be.

                                Reid
                                Cannot be given another game until his shoulders are fixed. Has to be put on a program of some sort. Can't afford him to get a shoulder injury during the match. Worth keeping.

                                Eagleton
                                Do not give him another game. He is not part of our future. Youngies will be better.

                                Addison
                                Probably one of the best players for Williamstown. Lots of possessions with some good passes. But don't be fooled. He also makes crap mistakes. No more games for Addison. He is not part of our future.

                                Stack
                                Amazing that he wasn't delisted last year. Amazing that he got games this year. What were they thinking?

                                Cross
                                His game has improved somewhat lately as he has been going the run forward and long(ish) kick forward (as opposed to his usual dinky-doo handpass and backwards kick). I have been pleased to see this. But on Friday night when under pressure out came the dinky-doo hand-pass that was stuffed up as the receiver was tackled and down the gurgler went another goal.

                                Roughead.
                                Not as good as Minson yet, but can improve with more game time. He seems to have what it takes. Part of our future.

                                Akermanis
                                A better player than Johnson and should be played in preference to Brad Johnson but not in preference to one of the young guys.

                                Tim Callan
                                Not part of our future.

                                Harbrow.
                                Well I saw the game on Friday night but I don't understand what this guy was supposed to be doing. Has he fallen out of form?

                                Shaggy
                                As was stated by someone else, didn't think he was playing at one stage until he popped up with a mark on the half-back flank. Fallen out of form and ripe for the chop.

                                Hill
                                I know you can get frustrated by him. But, but he takes these marks and kicks these goals and sticks his hand here and there and does these unusual things. He is borderline but I would like to see him given some encouragement and that might improve his game.

                                Williams
                                Has played a lot of games now and I can't see where he has really been tested. He doesn't seem to have been given any really tough jobs. I would like to see his mettle and put him in the team and match him up against their best and see what he is really made of. I can't form an opinion on him because he has not yet had it tough.

                                So given those opinions:

                                Out: Reid and Minson if injured.
                                Out Hahn and Johnson because they are crap.

                                In: Everitt and Roughead.
                                In: Williams and Hill

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