Could Lake be a leader?

[LostDoggy]

Do you think Lake should be in the Leader Group in 2011??He is the general down back even the commentators spoke about him on Friday night with the way Lake was calling the Defenders back.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

Interesting thread.

I reckon! Love his off-the-wall humor as well.

[Missing-Dog]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

Is he switched on enough? Does have the odd brain faze but seems a good leader on the ground. Unsure what hes really like off it.

[EasternWest]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

Do you think Lake should be in the Leader Group in 2011??He is the general down back even the commentators spoke about him on Friday night with the way Lake was calling the Defenders back.

Welcome porkie!

I think Lake is probably just fine where he is. In such red-hot form, I'd be tempted to let sleeping dogs lie.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

I'd be hesitant, he's a bit laconic IMO. Funny thing, Mum heard him talking, and said "He seems a bit dopey!". However, he's in terrific form, and one of our most important players.

Great username, by the way.

[Greystache]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

He regularly gets ripped into by Eade for not paying attention, and he openly admits to struggling to concentrate in team meetings, so I would say no.

He's an out and out champion, it works for him but isn't the right example for less naturally gifted players.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

I'd be hesitant, he's a bit laconic IMO. Funny thing, Mum heard him talking, and said "He seems a bit dopey!". However, he's in terrific form, and one of our most important players.

Great username, by the way.

I,ve heard him speak several times as saying he seems a bit Dopey I dont think so.And with him falling asleep at meetings that was in his early days in the juniors was'nt it when he had sleep aponea. I just thought it may be good for Lake to be given that responsiblity,seem to be a team man and would take being in the Leader ship group with gusto,and ethusiam,just a thought.And dos'nt have so many Brain fades of late.I think myself he would make a good leader.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

I,ve heard him speak several times as saying he seems a bit Dopey I dont think so.And with him falling asleep at meetings that was in his early days in the juniors was'nt it when he had sleep aponea. I just thought it may be good for Lake to be given that responsiblity,seem to be a team man and would take being in the Leader ship group with gusto,and ethusiam,just a thought.And dos'nt have so many Brain fades of late.I think myself he would make a good leader.

Fair enough, that's what discussion is for!

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

He has the lad factor. I can't find it but there was a recent article about him a bit drunk and unable to find his way home after a function so he slept at the western Oval. Funny.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

He has the lad factor. I can't find it but there was a recent article about him a bit drunk and unable to find his way home after a function so he slept at the western Oval. Funny.

He was 19 and new to Melb.but it was funny now he has matured,married and a father.and he was Harris then Lake is the more grown up one.

[mjp]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

He is our best player so he IS a leader whether he likes it or not.

His actions on the field mark him as someone to be respected so whether he is up to it or not is irrelevant - he is a leader at the club.

[Curly5]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

He is our best player so he IS a leader whether he likes it or not.

His actions on the field mark him as someone to be respected so whether he is up to it or not is irrelevant - he is a leader at the club.

This ^. The rest of the team could do worse than copy him (on the field ) Plus his pay packet puts him into the leadership bracket.

[EasternWest]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

He is our best player so he IS a leader whether he likes it or not.

His actions on the field mark him as someone to be respected so whether he is up to it or not is irrelevant - he is a leader at the club.

This ^. The rest of the team could do worse than copy him (on the field ) Plus his pay packet puts him into the leadership bracket.

But that wasn't the question.

Should he, due to his onfield leadership, be in the leadership group in 2011?

I don't think so. I don't think he is the kind of guy you look to to be the inspirational talker/motivator/trainer at practice.

He's the guy that constantly saves your arse on field, and leads by his actions. Lets not put expectations on Brian to be in the leadership group, because it is as plain as the nose on his face that he is a leader onfield. Let's leave it at that.

[mjp]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

But that wasn't the question.

Actually, the question is in the title of the thread - "Could Lake be a leader?"

I don't think so. I don't think he is the kind of guy you look to to be the inspirational talker/motivator/trainer at practice.

So what? The players will pick their leaders based on what behaviors they aspire too - not who spins the most bs during a running drill or who wants to have the biggest say in a team meeting. If what Lake does personifies those attributes - and those attributes SHOULD reflect the way he conducts himself - then he should be selected.

We are following the Leading Teams model - that is how it works. Outline aspirational behaviors, select as leaders the people who best embody them.

[EasternWest]

Re: Could Lake be a leader?

Actually, the question is in the title of the thread - "Could Lake be a leader?"

So what? The players will pick their leaders based on what behaviors they aspire too - not who spins the most bs during a running drill or who wants to have the biggest say in a team meeting. If what Lake does personifies those attributes - and those attributes SHOULD reflect the way he conducts himself - then he should be selected.

We are following the Leading Teams model - that is how it works. Outline aspirational behaviors, select as leaders the people who best embody them.

Well your first point is just semantics. As was mine also I guess.

I can't argue your points after so what? They all make sense.

My basis for leaving Lake out would be that he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy that would be that keen to be involved with a lot of extra head work and leadership meetings etc. I could be wrong, but he strikes me more as a doer.