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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

    Originally posted by Desipura
    yes how so? TCD I have not seen you give your opinion? If you are willing, I would be interested to know.
    Are you going to ask that of all other posters who haven't given an opinion?
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    • Desipura
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4344

      Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      Are you going to ask that of all other posters who haven't given an opinion?
      No Im not

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

        Originally posted by Stefcep
        IF thats true then IMO the club has lost some integrity for jerking the guy around at Willi, stringing him along with the promise that he had a chance to get back into the team, when in actual fact he had no chance no matter what he did. Thats just disgusting. And it also means that everything else that is supposed to have happened since the gay footballers article is just BS, and that Aker's been sacked for an opinion-piece on gay footballers. If true then that just puts the club in a terrible light.
        It's hard to know really. The club can claim all sorts of things without having to divulge one iota.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

          Originally posted by Remi Moses
          Not right,you can't pin this one on the media Aker made his bed! Now We hear he was sending text messages shit canning his teammates. Enough is Enough
          Nobody knows anything for sure. Certainly not going to trust anything I read in the currant bun.
          There are two sides to each story I guess. That's all I am saying.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • Throughandthrough
            Coaching Staff
            • Nov 2007
            • 3203

            Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

            I'm glad he's gone, based on the assumption that the leadership group wanted him gone.

            For the people who didn't want him sacked, how many more chances should he have got?

            Or what standards are acceptible if he was kicking 5 goals every week?


            To take it to the nth degree, if he kicked 8 goals this weekend for us vs Freeo, and then came out and said

            "proof that i am good, the dogs need me, Eade has no idea as a coach, Johnno is selfish, Huddo is a dinosaur, Ward has poor skills under pressure ehen tackled from his left side, but lucky i played well" would you keep him at the club?


            There has to be a line, and in our clubs decision, based on MUCH more then we know, he crossed the line.

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            • BulldogBelle
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 5284

              Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

              One thing I find frustrating is how other posters believe that they can arrive at an informed decision on the basis that Smorgon's/Rose's etc, character or judgement is better than Aker's.

              Also, the fact that Aka was kicked out of 2 clubs does not automatically mean that he is in the wrong.

              I question the fragility of or club and leadership team to be unable to deal with an 'individual'.

              The club has gone to great pains to tell us they have made the 'hard' decision.
              Yet, I believe this decision has borne out a weakness of the club in allowing one player to destabilise the club to such a degree by committing a set of ambiguous and questionable acts.

              I'll have to disagree with Libba, we may be galvanised for a brief period of time, but I am more convinced now of our mental discipline and inferiority to the top 3.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                Smorgon and Rose work to better the Bulldogs. Aker was working to better him self

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14915

                  Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                  Originally posted by 2PotScreamer
                  One thing I find frustrating is how other posters believe that they can arrive at an informed decision on the basis that Smorgon's/Rose's etc, character or judgement is better than Aker's.
                  Smorgan, Rose, Fantasia, the bulk of the playing group, Garlick....

                  In the end it's simple numbers. Are the entire powerbroking group from the club wrong, or one person (Aker) who has a history of playing by his own rules?

                  Balance of probability suggests Aker is not the innocent party in this.
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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                    Originally posted by 2PotScreamer

                    I'll have to disagree with Libba, we may be galvanised for a brief period of time, but I am more convinced now of our mental discipline and inferiority to the top 3.
                    Well, Libba has his son coming through, so I doubt he will be impartial. Any comments on Dough Hawkins on the Radio? He seems to be in Aker's corner.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                      Originally posted by Danstar
                      Smorgon and Rose work to better the Bulldogs. Aker was working to better him self
                      Bravo. Sums up the whole saga.

                      The club/a business wouldnt cut a perfomring asset just for the hell of it. Aker was an underperforming, disruptive, selfish individual.

                      Plenty of eveidnce across his career and in recent times. I'm not sure how anyone can miss this point.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                        Originally posted by Danstar
                        Smorgon and Rose work to better the Bulldogs. Aker was working to better him self
                        If that was the plan he wouldn't have been give a new contract when they couldn't trust him. In the end, the club is at fault.

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                        • Murphy'sLore
                          WOOF Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2085

                          Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                          It's sad that it's ended this way and of course Aker feels disappointed and bitter, he will lash out and that's only to be expected under the circumstances.

                          But the club must have realised what the fallout would be (it's raining all around us today); they wouldn't have taken this decision lightly. I just hope that the club can maintain some dignity and not rise to the bait that Aker is strewing on all sides (pardon mixed metaphors!)

                          In his prime and latterly, in flashes, Aker was a brilliant player. Sadly those flashes were few and far between this year. It's a real shame for him that he'll be remembered, not for the genius of his feet, but for his inability to keep those same feet out of his big gob.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14300

                            Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            Well, Libba has his son coming through, so I doubt he will be impartial. Any comments on Dough Hawkins on the Radio? He seems to be in Aker's corner.
                            Doug is not the brightest spark and to go on the radio was going to be under the pump on taking sides.
                            I thought he handled it quite well, his point was he didnt believe in leadership groups and that Richmond put a 20 yo into a leadership group was quite good.
                            The balance of having a leadership group and who has what say can be a delicate balance.
                            Love Doug and we all know his heart is in the right spot but this was a definite ambush on him by Aker and Pricey, well done Doug for not being too sucked in.
                            I think it was terrible for the radio station to have him on trying to get him offside with his club?
                            Aker knows he is a favouite son, it was all about Aker again , no concern for Dougs position he would be in .
                            Must say Aker was damaged by one of his mates last Thursday in Sam Newman.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Desipura
                              WOOF Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4344

                              Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                              Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
                              But the club must have realised what the fallout would be (it's raining all around us today); they wouldn't have taken this decision lightly. I just hope that the club can maintain some dignity and not rise to the bait that Aker is strewing on all sides (pardon mixed metaphors!)
                              Of course they were aware of the fallout. I made mention on this same forum after the gay article, if he was to be sacked all hell would break loose. It was no suprise to me and am sure no surprise to the MC.
                              For the club to take such extreme measures by sacking one of the most talked about players 5 weeks before finals, tells me that the relationship was untenable.
                              Why else would the club risk having another wasted season?

                              If Aker was still on our list and was not picked to play in the seniors in the next few weeks (whether form warranted it or not), he would still be destabilising our side through the media. I would rather it happen now (allbeit in the lead up of an important game) than during the finals.
                              Im hoping over time what he says later on in the season is not as much as a headline, by then Knights will probably get the sack or Cousins will be in trouble AGAIN.

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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6412

                                Re: Aker press Conference at 4:45 PM

                                It was certainly a big day for AFL news with Aker being sacked and Kosi fined $7000 due to no spectators being allowed on the ground....

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