The Footy Show

[GVGjr]

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a summary for us northern staters?

It could have been a lot worse and in the end Rose and Akermanis shook hands and there appeared to be some genuine respect between the two.

Key points for Akermanis
- He thought he was going into a meeting to talk about if he would be selected to play against Fremantle when in fact the outcome of the meeting had already been decided.
This goes against what a meeting is supposed to be about.
- Information had been leaked back to Akermanis (another leak) that Johnson had some problems with him so Akermanis phoned to seek clarity. Johnson was very guarded with his comments and Akermanis lost his cool.
- Akermanis pointed out that an agreement had been struck prior to him re-singing that past indiscretions that he had chalked up would be cleared from the slate and he would essentially be treated as a rookie this season however, in the final meeting it all resurfaced again as the reasons why they were terminating his contract.
- Akermanis had a problem with the leading players process.

Key point for Rose
- There had been a break down of trust within the playing group and Akermanis and the situation was untenable.

Rose acquitted himself very well as did Akermanis.
By the way, Aker predicted a Bulldogs win by 30 points.

[AndrewP6]

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That whole segment only served to reinforce my feeling that the Western Bulldogs administration completely cocked this whole thing up - massively. Aker came on, and yes, he probably did only present the facts that put him in a good light. But at least he presented some facts. He offered to show Rose the texts he received from the 'unanimously united' (a paraphrase, not a direct quote) team mates, he spoke of the club clearing the slate (and Rose replied "Slate or no slate"???). The dig at Smithy probably wasn't necessary, but was it necessary to have a dig at Aker in the press? He gets criticised when he does that. For mine, Campbell Rose came across as an uninvolved figurehead, openly admitting he wasn't there at certain points, and continually harping on about loss of trust, whilst not actually adding any new information to the situation. He said nothing in that whole segment that isn't known or hasn't been said. I thought he was a mealy-mouthed, namby-pamby yachtsman before - my view hasn't changed. Sure, he's done an lot for our club's business affairs, but his appearance tonight was a waste of time. He got whacked, and deserved it. Call me naive, call me gullible, call me worse if you want, but at the end of that segment, I felt Aker to be the more believable, and the Club to have added NOTHING more to the information already presented.

Yes, I'm peeved. I did laugh when he shook Rose's hand at the end (which I'd have struggled to do) and then said "Now piss off"...

[angelopetraglia]

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Just a disaster. Aker improved his position, while the club looks worse.

Aker was allowed to speak without interruptions, while Rose had to put up with both Aker and Newman interrupting and questioning him.

Rose handled himself well under the circumstances.

Aker still doesn't get it. Doesn't even think he was sacked from Brisbane. What do you call it when you are not allowed in the place? Just plain banned from the joint half-way through the season.

I feel sorry for Aker, he obviously lacks normal people perception skills. Comes across as intelligent but just has no idea about people.

How can get himself into the same situation with two different set of groups and take zero responsibility for either?

[GVGjr]

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Sam vents, bit of a ramble. Turns out Newman is a member of the Western Bulldogs, 7 years?
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Spot on. He's been buying memberships since the Lease Plan Bulldogs announced their partnership on TFS.

[lemmon]

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Im fairly riled up after that and not sure it could've gone much worse. Rose was hijacked by Sam and his puppet Aker and I'm not sure a CEO who has been away from the club was the best choice. Would have preferred Bazza to go on and present a strong, united playing front to be honest.
As for Aker he sung a tale of woe and would have gained a lot of outside support but good riddance

[The Pie Man]

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I can't recall a more open airing of a club's dirty laundry in all my time following the game.

Just bizarre, awkward but strangely gripping tv I'll admit.

I agree with all (well most) of you in that Jason is playing the victim card - but he's playing it very well in the early rounds.

I get the intervention style confrontation he's been the subject of - that's the idea, it's confronting.....the way Jason has presented it does not paint the club well to neutral observer...someone I love dearly just mentioned to me that the 'bullying' he's been subjected to is 'disgusting' (I don't share that view, but something tells me I'll wear a similar barrage at work tomorrow)

I thought one of the worst things was Newman claiming someone will 'neck' themselves if a but fragile under such treatment....irresponsible

Can't wait for Sunday to blow this all away...mostly..sort of

[LostDoggy]

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That whole segment only served to reinforce my feeling that the Western Bulldogs administration completely cocked this whole thing up - massively. Aker came on, and yes, he probably did only present the facts that put him in a good light. But at least he presented some facts. He offered to show Rose the texts he received from the 'unanimously united team mates, he spoke of the club clearing the slate (and Rose replied "Slate or no slate"???). For mine, Campbell Rose came across as an uninvolved figurehead, openly admitting he wasn't there at certain points, and continually harping on about loss of trust, whilst not actually adding any new information to the situation. He said nothing in that whole segment that isn't known or hasn't been said. I thought he was a mealy-mouthed, namby-pamby yachtsman before - my view hasn't changed. Sure, he's done an lot for our club, but his appearance tonight was a waste of time. He got whacked, and deserved it. Call me naive, call me gullible, call me worse if you want, but at the end of that segment, I felt Aker to be the more believable, and the Club to have added NOTHING more to the information presented.

But TFS painted in and presented it in that light mate. Cam Rose has to be careful with what he says —*he is an employer who has sacked an employee and there are legal considerations on top of PR considerations. Comments he makes can still hurt the club if not considered and thought out. Aker, however, has the natural advantage of 1. being out of contract and free to speak and 2. having the support of the panel.

In the face of this, very impressive by Cam.

[dogman]

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Smith on Fox Sports said Aker won't be remembered for the Brownlow or the Premierships but for getting sacked twice.

Aker said something along the lines of 'Rohan, at least I'll be remembered'.

That is actually incorrect. I watched afl teams on foxtel. Rohan, just asked the question to the panel, "will he be remember for his premierships or brownlow or being sacked by two clubs"
Again Aker manipulates facts to make himself look like the poor innocent sole.

[Greystache]

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Sam vents, bit of a ramble. Turns out Newman is a member of the Western Bulldogs, 7 years?

His PA is Scott Clayton's wife she signed him up without him knowing and he's continued to renew since then.

[GVGjr]

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Im fairly riled up after that and not sure it could've gone much worse. Rose was hijacked by Sam and his puppet Aker and I'm not sure a CEO who has been away from the club was the best choice. Would have preferred Bazza to go on and present a strong, united playing front to be honest.
As for Aker he sung a tale of woe and would have gained a lot of outside support but good riddance

I haven't lost respect for Akermanis and or the club/Rose. There was never going to be a winner and we shouldn't have expected anything less from appearing on the show.

I can't dislike Akermanis for his performance tonight as he tried hard to stick to the facts from his perspective.

The club did the right thing by not subjecting Hall or any other player to it.

[AndrewP6]

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It could have been a lot worse and in the end Rose and Akermanis shook hands and there appeared to be some genuine respect between the two.

I thought Aker was just restraining himself from letting his true feelings be known. Evidenced by the "Now piss off" at the end!

Key point for Rose
- There had been a break down of trust within the playing group and Akermanis and the situation was untenable.

Rose acquitted himself very well as did Akermanis.
By the way, Aker predicted a Bulldogs win by 30 points.

I was greatly disappointed that this was his ONLY point. No proof was offered (I know, it's "in-house"), no further information given and I thought he came across as weak.

[comrade]

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Did anyone pick up Aker's faux pas when he referred to the conversation he had with Sam, then corrected himself and said Sam overhead. Later in the segment he again referred to having a conversation with Sam, who then grilled Cooney.

[Happy Days]

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What about the admission of Aker telling Sam the information directly, even though Sam said he overheard it not 5 minutes earlier?

How does anything he says hold any credibility, especially when it is in direct contrast with the information coming for the club?

[lemmon]

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I haven't lost respect for Akermanis and or the club/Rose. There was never going to be a winner and we shouldn't have expected anything less from appearing on the show.

I can't dislike Akermanis for his performance tonight as he tried hard to stick to the facts from his perspective.

The club did the right thing by not subjecting Hall or any other player to it.

The sticking point for me was he insinuation of a fractured playing group, the best person to refute this would have obviously been a player. To the neutral observer it appears that we were simply looking for a reason to sack Aker and have picked a relatively flimsy one, sending a backroom figure onto the show only enforced this view. Aker grabbed all the points from tonight in my mind and what was a relatively split issue has now gatered into a vendetta against our club on behalf of innocent Akermanis

[GVGjr]

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Did anyone pick up Aker's faux pas when he referred to the conversation he had with Sam, then corrected himself and said Sam overhead. Later in the segment he again referred to having a conversation with Sam, who then grilled Cooney.

Yes I noticed it. He made that error a couple of times but I don't think it really changes things much.