The Footy Show

[Missing-Dog]

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Bit sad and ugly....not much good from all this. Lets hope we pull it all together and smash Freo on the weekend

[lemmon]

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Rose did OK. But why not role at the big gun? Smorgon is a public speaking star, has the respect of the footy world and would not have been bullied by either Sam or Aker.

He always comes across with such raw passion and belief. Can't believe he wasn't there tonight.

Aker would have went to town on Smorgan, there is obviously animoisity between the two. The club obviously choose to send a representative who is on reasonably good terms with Aker but it backfired hideously when his lack of information was revealed.

[Ghost Dog]

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This has not been good for the club. The media is the only one who won out of this.
Maybe, being finals time, players and officials, feeling the pressure, have become a bit too brittle, didn't handle it as well as they might. It's the stressful part of the season.
Either way, Jason has come out of this looking better than us.
Does not matter. Some young player will fill his spot and make good use of it.
Sounds like there has been a real lack of communication and problem solving.
I feel sorry for Rocket, as if he does not have enough on his plate each time someone thrusts a mike into his face.

[ledge]

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It's obviously a very tough and awkward situation and tonights interview didn't exactly help our cause.


As for Campbell Rose, he did as well as could be expected. However, why was he on? He said it himself at one point, that he wasn't the right person to ask. That makes us look like idiots. We have a trust issue, central to the game day perssonnel and we pull in a financial yachter with no experience as a footballer to speak on our behalf. I thought that was poor and it should have been either Smorgon, Eade or Johnno if anybody.

What experience does Smorgon have as a footballer also?

[Ghost Dog]

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I think Aker dobbed himself in , first said he never leaked anything then mentioned when he told Newman.
The piss off bit actually showed how its all about him .

Gary Lyon actually had Aker in a bind about two clubs there has to be something about you.

Did he actually tell Rose to piss off?? I turned off just at that part.

[Mantis]

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Rose did OK. But why not role at the big gun? Smorgon is a public speaking star, has the respect of the footy world and would not have been bullied by either Sam or Aker.

He always comes across with such raw passion and belief. Can't believe he wasn't there tonight.

Smorgon said what he wanted yesterday at the press conference and on the radio this morning.

Nothing was going to be gained by going on that show in that forum. The show is run by dills and is viewed by dills.

[GVGjr]

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Did he actually tell Rose to piss off?? I turned off just at that part.

Same here. Looked at it from a distance but wasn't listening to it.
Got a text confirming it.

[G-Mo77]

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The show is run by dills and is viewed by dills.

Truer words were never spoken

[lemmon]

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Same here. Looked at it from a distance but wasn't listening to it.
Got a text confirming it.

It took it as being in jest, I may very well be wrong though.

[LostDoggy]

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Although there was a fair bit going Cambell's way it wasn't a total lynching. Gary Lyon had a bit of a go against Jason. As much as the crowd booed in parts, It decent that the clubs willing to put someone in the firing line to answer the tough questions and not scared to let Jason have it all his own way. Rose may not have been involved in the discussions but he has staff he trusts and its probably as much about sharing the load with all the mdeia outlets. With hindsight we'll have to wait and see how it all panned out.

[comrade]

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Whilst it hasn't been a great couple of days, the sting will have gone out of the issue by next week and the media moved on to the next drama (here's hoping the Bombers get slaughtered).

Everyone's raw and we're copping it from all sides but this will blow over. Sooner than we think, IMO.

It's up to the players to stand up now.

[angelopetraglia]

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Smorgon said what he wanted yesterday at the press conference and on the radio this morning.

Nothing was going to be gained by going on that show in that forum. The show is run by dills and is viewed by dills.

Good point. But if that is the case, why send anyone at all?

[FrediKanoute]

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That whole segment only served to reinforce my feeling that the Western Bulldogs administration completely cocked this whole thing up - massively. Aker came on, and yes, he probably did only present the facts that put him in a good light. But at least he presented some facts. He offered to show Rose the texts he received from the 'unanimously united' (a paraphrase, not a direct quote) team mates, he spoke of the club clearing the slate (and Rose replied "Slate or no slate"???). The dig at Smithy probably wasn't necessary, but was it necessary to have a dig at Aker in the press? He gets criticised when he does that. For mine, Campbell Rose came across as an uninvolved figurehead, openly admitting he wasn't there at certain points, and continually harping on about loss of trust, whilst not actually adding any new information to the situation. He said nothing in that whole segment that isn't known or hasn't been said. I thought he was a mealy-mouthed, namby-pamby yachtsman before - my view hasn't changed. Sure, he's done an lot for our club's business affairs, but his appearance tonight was a waste of time. He got whacked, and deserved it. Call me naive, call me gullible, call me worse if you want, but at the end of that segment, I felt Aker to be the more believable, and the Club to have added NOTHING more to the information already presented.

Yes, I'm peeved. I did laugh when he shook Rose's hand at the end (which I'd have struggled to do) and then said "Now piss off"...

Is there anything more serious than a loss of trust? I don't think we should underplay jsut how important trust is in a team. Its not some small insignificant factor, but pretty much the essence of what being in a team is about. To me it seems that the media has trivialised the issue of trust when in reality it is central to team cohesion. I think what this whole episode does is provide an example of just how important trust is to a group.

As for your comment's on Rose I think they are wide of the mark.

[LostDoggy]

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That was so similar to watching Jerry Springer it was scary.

[The Pie Man]

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Whilst it hasn't been a great couple of days, the sting will have gone out of the issue by next week and the media moved on to the next drama (here's hoping the Bombers get slaughtered).

Everyone's raw and we're copping it from all sides but this will blow over. Sooner than we think, IMO.

It's up to the players to stand up now.

True - can't wait for Sunday