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I should have put in a disclaimer that is mainly viewed by dills.
The level they need to stoop to raise a laugh is pathetic. Street talk each week shows the dregs of society trotted out to create a laugh and to let Sam take the mickey out of them - It was funny for the first year or two, but after 15+ years of the same crap that segment must surely have run it's race.
The main man ( Sam) doesn't like or watch footy anymore... So what does he offer the show?
There is no discussion on the show worth listening to and one would have thought that either Barrett or Hutchinson should have either ran or been involved in the discussions last night to add some credibility, but why would they want to do that when they can chuck 'the fossil' out and let him make a complete arse of himself by trying to cover up the fact that he let down Aker big time and was a contributing factor to his demise.Comment
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I couldn't believe Sam was actually wearing the scarf at the end of the show, after what he had to say about the club. Corrupt, hidden agenda etc... felt like reaching through the TV and grabbing it off his neck.Comment
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Did you miss the part where Aker admitted twice that he told Sam about the meeting? Sam then used that info to grill Cooney on TFS.
Did you also miss the part where he said the Herald Sun edited his comments and then later apologised and somehow still stated that he wasn't a liar.
Also whilst being on his good behaviour leave (VFL stint) he broke yet another club rule by calling an opposition player a dribbler. Now if this was a spur of the moment comment than it could be laughed off but he actually said this the following morning on MTR. In other words MTR had clearly become his main priority.
Leading teams won't work in every environment that is for sure.
I disliked the approach of the club by putting anyone on TFS. We should have let him mouth off and then when asked about it the following day just referred back to the press statement we gave earlier. A simple "It's done and dusted and we are focusing on Freo" would have been suffice.Comment
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I wasn't really a watcher of the show but I stopped watching it once that Lyon stuck up for Sam with that Caroline Wilson skit.
FWIW, last night I thought they did a reasonable job of being impartial and it was certainly better than I expected. I can understand Akermanis being bitter after all he trained all season in the hope of playing in the finals and that dream has been cut short.
I understand the club position as well. I'm not going to bag Akermanis nor do I intend to with the club as it's now been dealt with.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Apology accepted
. I do tune in most weeks to TFS, but certainly not for highbrow discussion or in-depth analysis. I don't take their word as gospel, more as light-entertainment. I get narky when the have a dig at our team, and laugh at some of the antics. I confess, I laugh at Street Talk (sometimes!), but do agree that it's not great the way they target certain demographics (and deny doing it). Billy's an idiot, but makes me laugh.
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Fair call, he does have foot-in-mouth disease!
Lantern posted on this issue (god knows where, I've read soooo many posts the last two days! ) I really think if this (dumb) comment caused such angst within the club, they're too precious for their own good. He said something wrong, smack him, get on with it.
Yes, I've said as much. They may as well have put the presser on a big screen and pressed play. Rose said nothing.[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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I agree , I thought Brayshaw and Lyons were impartial and it was a lot better than I expected.
Aker certainly came across bitter ( as one would be wether right or wrong)
Newman came across, as I expected the prize dick he really is.
Thought it was a great comment from J.Brown to Newman, that he was so far removed from the innner sactum of a football club that he would not have a clue about what goes on.It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.Comment
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I've read a lot of your posts over the last two days ... Some I agree with and some I vehermently oppose ...Fair call, he does have foot-in-mouth disease!
Lantern posted on this issue (god knows where, I've read soooo many posts the last two days! ) I really think if this (dumb) comment caused such angst within the club, they're too precious for their own good. He said something wrong, smack him, get on with it.
Yes, I've said as much. They may as well have put the presser on a big screen and pressed play. Rose said nothing.
The whole point of it was :-
1. The rules were laid out on the table for him by his employer ... Be them right or wrong, they were the rules ... He agreed to them ... His employer agreed to them ... His work colleagues agreed to them
2. Clean slate or not ... He broke said rules THREE times in six weeks ... Even after continous warnings
3. Aker's employer came to a very difficult conclusion that he could not be trusted to Not break a rule again.
Whether Aker liked Leading Teams' approach or not is not the issue ... He signed for the year knowing full well what the process was and the consequences for breaking the rules.
I applaud the club for setting high standards of both on field and off field behaviour ... And I congratulate them for sticking to those standards. I am disappointed that Aker is no longer a Bulldog but I am wrapped that my club has drawn a line in the sand and said NO MORE !!!Comment
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Fair enough, that's what discussion is for!
Fine with all that, except for the continuous warnings (six weeks and more) - strong leadership would've stopped it long before (Eade said 18 months of behaviour issues) the thousandth warning (or before they signed him on again - they knew the risks) If they'd done this a year ago, I'd not be nearly as peeved.
It's not about him liking it, my point was people seem in awe of this system, noting the success of teams like Geelong (who've got a lot more going for them than an effective leadership model). Point I was getting at was that it has flaws.
No real argument with this, except that I wish they'd been stronger and drawn said line a lot sooner.[B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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You are in the Education system (not sure if government school or not), you know how hard it is to sack a teacher ... Even when it is clear to all that they are not following Department Policy ... It has to follow due process.
Whatever system you choose (we use leading teams), due process must be seen to have been followed ... This is what our club has done. They have set policy, laid the ground rules, then followed due process ... Yes it took six weeks, but Aker had to be given every chance to right wrongs ... He chose not too ... Process followed ... And as far as I am concerned, end of story !!Comment
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To me it comes down to what benefit did the club have sacking aker. None. They paid him out, got criticized from supporters and non supporters. So this to me means they didn't have a choice. If the the players didn't loose trust and respect as aker claims, and he is in our top 5 players in our team, as he also claims, I guarantee he wouldn't be sacked. He has to stand up as a man and claim responsibility for his actions.
He did some great things for the club, the last few years. But it's sad that he is stupid enough to through that respect away from our supporters for some short term gain from the media outlets.Comment
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Yep, Govt school. If only we could go to our boss and indicate a lack of trust in colleagues, we'd get rid of a few! I understand the need to follow due process, but their signing of him for another year said to me that they were OK with his performance - not that they had concerns for 18 months as Eade said. They didn't necessarily have to try to sack him in the early instances, but in John Kennedy's words "do something!" - suspension maybe? Calling him into meetings obviously didn't work. When you do things repeatedly that don't work, do something different...
Anyhoo, it's late, I've had a few, and King of Queens is on. Boy my typing fingers are sore! Carn the Doggies![B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]Comment
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Sorry for imposing, but the whole Akermanis sacking led me to the club website. After sifting through various Aker related links I ventured upon some intersting videos, Bulldogs cribs which I think is a great idea from the club and it's young hosts.
Next thing I stumbled across were the Hall of Fame videos, our own Bob Murphy embodying evrything we as a club stand for. Then Charlie's inspirational speech, full of fight and passion despite his age.
But what stood out for me the most was when he was questioned, which is your favourite player? His response was and is what all Bulldog supporters should consider before
hanging the club out to dry and threaten with the memberships.
It's the team that will be a success, not an individual.Comment
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