Teams R - 18

[The Coon Dog]

B - Harbrow, Lake, Morris
HB - Hargrave, Williams, Gilbee
C - Cross, Boyd, Picken
HF - Murphy, Jones, Johnson
F - Grant, Hall, Higgins
R - Hudson, Griffen, Cooney
Int - Addison, Eagleton, Everitt, Giansiracusa, Moles, Roughead, Wood

In - Jones

Out - Ward (Hip)

* For some reason you can no longer copy/paste direct from the AFL website.

[Bornadog]

Re: Teams R - 18

WESTERN BULLDOGS v NORTH MELBOURNE

Western Bulldogs

B: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Dale Morris
HB: Ryan Hargrave, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd, Liam Picken
HF: Robert Murphy, Liam Jones, Brad Johnson
F: Jarrad Grant, Barry Hall, Shaun Higgins
Foll: Ben Hudson, Ryan Griffen, Adam Cooney
I/C (from): Dylan Addison, Nathan Eagleton, Andrejs Everitt, Daniel Giansiracusa, Brodie Moles, Jordan Roughead, Easton Wood

In: Dylan Addison, Andrejs Everitt, Liam Jones, Nathan Eagleton
Out: Callan Ward (hip)

New: Liam Jones (Tasmania U18)

North Melbourne

B: Michael Firrito, Scott Thompson, Brady Rawlings
HB: Jamie MacMillan, Josh Smith, Scott McMahon
C: Leigh Adams, Brent Harvey, Sam Wright
HF: Matt Campbell, Aaron Edwards, Ben Speight
F: Ben Cunnington, Lachlan Hansen, Lindsay Thomas
Foll: Hamish McIntosh, Andrew Swallow, Levi Greenwood
I/C: Ed Lower, Todd Goldstein, Ryan Bastinac, Brayden Norris, Marcus White, Leigh Harding, Gavin Urquhart

In: McMahon, Thomas, White, Wright, Norris
Out: David Hale , Ben Warren (back)

New: Marcus White (Calder Cannons/Rookie list), Brayden Norris (Murray Bushrangers)

[LostDoggy]

Re: Teams R - 18

I never would have guessed Jones was a chance. Good luck to him. Hopefully will kick a bag.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Teams R - 18

Will be interesting to see who goes in and out from that team, would like to see Jones and Everitt play but probably abit top heavy if that happens, Maybe Jones, Everitt (to play on a wing) in and Ward and im really not sure (would be a tall but I just cant think of anyone) out.

Edit - also interesting to see Murphy back forward and Jones on the ground.

[Greystache]

Re: Teams R - 18

Great to see Jones get a taste, not expecting big things from him this week, maybe 8 possesions and a goal, but hopefully we'll see one of his trademark pack marks.

Will be great for his preseason next year to know the level of fitness and strength required at AFL level.

[GVGjr]

Re: Teams R - 18

A lot of WOOF members have been saying that we are too tall and need extra runners so a Jones for Ward swap can't be what they wanted.

Any chance that we will be too top heavy?
The other concern will be the ability for Jones to spend significant time on the field.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Teams R - 18

Gee after watching last week surprised if Hansen plays.Well deserved inclusion Liam Jones I think the Eagle will play,just hope we don't go to top heavy.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Teams R - 18

A lot of WOOF members have been saying that we are too tall and need extra runners so a Jones for Ward swap can't be what they wanted.

Any chance that we will be too top heavy?
The other concern will be the ability for Jones to spend significant time on the field.

No, Geelong & St Kilda go in with big men every week & keep winning.

Geelong have Scarlett, Taylor, Mooney, Hawkins/Pods all in there team at once, not counting the two rucks.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Teams R - 18

A lot of WOOF members have been saying that we are too tall and need extra runners so a Jones for Ward swap can't be what they wanted.

Any chance that we will be too top heavy?
The other concern will be the ability for Jones to spend significant time on the field.

Definite chance of being top heavy but Nth aren't the team to capitalise imo.

I am usually happy when we play the young kids but doesn't it seem a bit arrogant of us at this stage of the season? Wouldn't Hill or Everitt have been a safer option? Any VFL watchers have an idea on Hill vs Jones in regards to impact on the game? Whats Jones' defensive pressure like?

I Rod I trust and we will pump them anyway plus have another player putting the pressure on the first 22.

[Bornadog]

Re: Teams R - 18

I can't see any more changes other than in Jones and out Ward.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Teams R - 18

A lot of WOOF members have been saying that we are too tall and need extra runners so a Jones for Ward swap can't be what they wanted.

Any chance that we will be too top heavy?
The other concern will be the ability for Jones to spend significant time on the field.

A few have also suggested we play 3 ruckmen, must say I have resisted the urge to reply to those suggestions.

I am definitely in the runners over non-gun talls camp. Someone joked about me having an issue with tall people, but I actually think it's a bit of an indictment on the modern game that you have to be so wary with not playing enough runners.

I think we look top heavy and would have preferred us to play Dre ahead of Jones team structure wise but as long as Jones can warrant say 70%+ TOG I think it will be OK. North are also probably the right side for him to play against as they can often be top heavy/lacking running depth themselves.

I must also say I am excited to see Jones play and think it's a great idea to give him a taste of it this season.

[mjp]

Re: Teams R - 18

A lot of WOOF members have been saying that we are too tall and need extra runners so a Jones for Ward swap can't be what they wanted.

Any chance that we will be too top heavy?
The other concern will be the ability for Jones to spend significant time on the field.

You already know I will say 'YES'.

Doesn't matter though - we need to get a couple of games into Jones this year.

[chef]

Re: Teams R - 18

I can't see any more changes other than in Jones and out Ward.

Me neither and I will be happy with that.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Teams R - 18

Definite chance of being top heavy but Nth aren't the team to capitalise imo.

I am usually happy when we play the young kids but doesn't it seem a bit arrogant of us at this stage of the season? Wouldn't Hill or Everitt have been a safer option? Any VFL watchers have an idea on Hill vs Jones in regards to impact on the game? Whats Jones' defensive pressure like?
I Rod I trust and we will pump them anyway plus have another player putting the pressure on the first 22.

I watch a replay of the VFL game on iview and I don't think Hill did enough for elevation, only got into the game in the last quarter.

I think it's worth while giving Jones a taste, and he seems to follow up fairly well.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Teams R - 18

No, Geelong & St Kilda go in with big men every week & keep winning.

Geelong have Scarlett, Taylor, Mooney, Hawkins/Pods all in there team at once, not counting the two rucks.

You forgot Lonergan for the Cats too.

For me it's not just about how many talls, it's about a few things.

The mobility/flexibility of the talls is massive (pardon the pun).

Can at least one your 2 rucks offer value elsewhere?
Do your tall defenders also play on smaller opponents and/or able create rebound?
Do your tall forwards offer defensive pressure and/or decent value at ground level?

Also your game style is massive. The more of a stoppage style you play, the more tall you can afford to be IMO. If your team is reliant on run, obviously the opposite.

Talls can also provide run vicariously by taking up high levels of TOG (obviously vital they warrant it) and releasing players to spend more time in midfield rotations/as 'runners' (or whatever wings/HF/HBs are in this crazy modern game).