Our Current Plight - Bad Luck or Bad Management??

[Greystache]

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Boumann.

3 years at the club and currently in Willi's reserves, yet everytime people talk about the exciting young players we have at the club he's one of the first players people name.

[LostDoggy]

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Boumann.

Honestly, even Markovic is ahead of him at the moment.

[DOG GOD]

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Honestly, even Markovic is ahead of him at the moment.

geez that shows where Boumann is atm then.

[soupman]

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Boumann.

I think he has been described as more of a Hargrave than a Morris or Lake. Reading the Willy posts it seems many posters think he has potential and ability to make it, if he works on certain areas of his game such as kicking longer.

[LostDoggy]

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Only mentioned Boumann in response to Mighty West's post about the young talent at the club and who we have in the pipeline as Morris/Lake replacement -- he was the obvious omission from the post, not pushing his wheelbarrow (I'm neither here nor there on him). No one is going to be exactly like-for-like replacement for Morris or Lake but Boumann has been earmarked for a key defensive role, and while I've only seen him play maybe ten times, the word around the traps and from the coaching staff is that he is no mug and definitely has the tools to make a breakthrough. Of course, we'll find out if the MC thinks the same at the end of the year.

[mighty_west]

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Only mentioned Boumann in response to Mighty West's post about the young talent at the club and who we have in the pipeline as Morris/Lake replacement -- he was the obvious omission from the post, not pushing his wheelbarrow (I'm neither here nor there on him). No one is going to be exactly like-for-like replacement for Morris or Lake but Boumann has been earmarked for a key defensive role, and while I've only seen him play maybe ten times, the word around the traps and from the coaching staff is that he is no mug and definitely has the tools to make a breakthrough. Of course, we'll find out if the MC thinks the same at the end of the year.

It was unfortunate that he buggered up in the pre season, he should have played in the NAB Cup earlier this year, who knows what that could have done for his confidence, things could have turned full circle for him, i really hope we give him more time, he just has something...not as confident with Mulligan or Markovic though.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Only mentioned Boumann in response to Mighty West's post about the young talent at the club and who we have in the pipeline as Morris/Lake replacement -- he was the obvious omission from the post, not pushing his wheelbarrow (I'm neither here nor there on him). No one is going to be exactly like-for-like replacement for Morris or Lake but Boumann has been earmarked for a key defensive role, and while I've only seen him play maybe ten times, the word around the traps and from the coaching staff is that he is no mug and definitely has the tools to make a breakthrough. Of course, we'll find out if the MC thinks the same at the end of the year.

He certainly shows positive signs each time you see him play, but he hasn't been able to take his game to another level. If he did, he would of cracked a game at senior AFL level by now.

This relates back to player management; what do they do next? Is it worth giving Boumann a game to:
a) See how he performs and if he can hold his own.
b) Give him a taste in a hope to accelerate his desire/development (See Grant/Jones)

[Bornadog]

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He certainly shows positive signs each time you see him play, but he hasn't been able to take his game to another level. If he did, he would of cracked a game at senior AFL level by now.

This relates back to player management; what do they do next? Is it worth giving Boumann a game to:
a) See how he performs and if he can hold his own.
b) Give him a taste in a hope to accelerate his desire/development (See Grant/Jones)

Boumanns biggest issue is his attack on the ball. He tends to hang back a bit and then jump for the punch away. It doesn't work in every situation and he needs to be a bit harder. He just turned 21 last week and maybe should be given one more year.

[Greystache]

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Only mentioned Boumann in response to Mighty West's post about the young talent at the club and who we have in the pipeline as Morris/Lake replacement -- he was the obvious omission from the post, not pushing his wheelbarrow (I'm neither here nor there on him). No one is going to be exactly like-for-like replacement for Morris or Lake but Boumann has been earmarked for a key defensive role, and while I've only seen him play maybe ten times, the word around the traps and from the coaching staff is that he is no mug and definitely has the tools to make a breakthrough. Of course, we'll find out if the MC thinks the same at the end of the year.

That's all fair enough, and I wasn't specifically referring to you when I said Boumann gets talked up a lot. I think he has some talent, but I'm not sure he'll ever develop his body enough to play as a key defender.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Boumanns biggest issue is his attack on the ball. He tends to hang back a bit and then jump for the punch away. It doesn't work in every situation and he needs to be a bit harder. He just turned 21 last week and maybe should be given one more year.

He's contracted for another year so unless he has stuffed up majorly somewhere along the line (not totally out of the realms of possibility, there must be some reason he was playing Willi reserves, his form was OK) he will be retained.

[Greystache]

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It was unfortunate that he buggered up in the pre season, he should have played in the NAB Cup earlier this year, who knows what that could have done for his confidence, things could have turned full circle for him, i really hope we give him more time, he just has something...not as confident with Mulligan or Markovic though.

It was a setback, but when you've been on the list 3 years you'd think he'd have grown out of that kind if rubbish by now. When you're still a fringe player at the club you'd think he'd make sure there was no questions marks over his attitude too.

He certainly shows positive signs each time you see him play, but he hasn't been able to take his game to another level. If he did, he would of cracked a game at senior AFL level by now.

Agreed, he's definitely shown development but it's been painfully slow, you wonder how much time the club will be prepared to give him.

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Boumanns biggest issue is his attack on the ball. He tends to hang back a bit and then jump for the punch away. It doesn't work in every situation and he needs to be a bit harder. He just turned 21 last week and maybe should be given one more year.

Yeah I have question marks over about his preparedness to do the things requiring courage.

He's contracted for next year so you'd think he's got one more, but I would've thought he would need to show significant progress and have no further misdemeanors.

[Ghost Dog]

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Regards the OP, The comparison with Collingwood and how their list might look with the gaping holes we have, is a good one.
Certainly presents an opportunity for somebody else in the midfield. Somebody!

''These things happen. It's just footy. You get tested by these sorts of things from time to time,'' Rocket Eade.

[Bornadog]

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The comparison with Collingwood and how their list might look is a good one.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing I guess. It's all about the midfield for us really isn't it?
Without Adam, we lack class there.

Boyd may not be considered classy, but he is also being touted as an All Australian, Griffen is class, but nees to step up with Adam missing. We need Boyd to ensure his disposal hurts the opposition.