Our natural enemies? And friends?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

He's just a shit stirrer.

"JUST?!"

Just a shit stirrer?

I'm also a part-time wrestler.

[Mofra]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

The happy-go-lucky positivity and back-slapping humanity of this forum makes me cringe.

You didn't read the Stack to debut thread?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Yeah, read it. Would have replied but someone closed the thread.

[Mantis]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

"JUST?!"

Just a shit stirrer?

I'm also a part-time wrestler.

And a full-time dick-head.

I'm all for offering different views, but your petty comments in this and other threads are laughable.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

And a full-time dick-head.

I'm all for offering different views, but your petty comments in this and other threads are laughable.

Cool post.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Yeah, read it. Would have replied but someone closed the thread.

Were you too busy with your part time job to post a reply in the 6 days that the thread was open.

I think it's more to do with your full time job.

[hujsh]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

If you don't like it, go back to Russia.

Straight from the Cold war era comeback book.

Just in case you didn't know the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore, Russia is democratic and Communism is no longer the countries greatest threat.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Thanks for the tip.

Actually, Russia is anything but democratic. The former USSR's powerbrokers (read: Communist party officials) basically became the country's capitalist class and the shift in power was sideways and not as democratic as most think. In fact, contemporary Russia is haunted by corruption. Glasnost was pretty monumental, and it shattered the state apparatus that used to control everything - but many Russians now yearn for a return to the days of official and brutal authoritarianism. Some people even think Russians are conditioned to being ruled by an iron fist, though I'm not convinced.

[Mofra]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Some people even think Russians are conditioned to being ruled by an iron fist, though I'm not convinced.

The events of October 1917 (heck, even 1905) would suggest the Russian populace (like most peoples) will only tolerate so much before change is forced upon the ruling classes. Unfortunately today the measures of population control are less obvious (read: Friedmanesque) which creates a vacuum of obvious opponents to rally against.

In any case, surely the Chinese would have been a better example? Burmese? Pinochet-era Chileans?

[Desipura]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

here we go, let the history lessons begin....

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

The events of October 1917 (heck, even 1905) would suggest the Russian populace (like most peoples) will only tolerate so much before change is forced upon the ruling classes. Unfortunately today the measures of population control are less obvious (read: Friedmanesque) which creates a vacuum of obvious opponents to rally against.

I would agree ol' chap. However, the 1917 revolution despite being won in the name of the proletariat; was driven by bourgeois intelligentsia who depsite their noble intentions, ended up creating an authoritarian regime. A mere substitution of power from the Tsar to the Bolsheviks was what took place (notwithstanding the short reign of the Provisional Government).

The October revolution actually ran contrary to the Marxist premise of a people's uprising. For that we can thank Lenin and his steadfast belief in the idea of a vanguard party to lead the workers and peasants into a socialist paradise, rather than them leading themselves.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

I would agree ol' chap. However, the 1917 revolution despite being won in the name of the proletariat; was driven by bourgeois intelligentsia who depsite their noble intentions, ended up creating an authoritarian regime. A mere substitution of power from the Tsar to the Bolsheviks was what took place (notwithstanding the short reign of the Provisional Government).

The October revolution actually ran contrary to the Marxist premise of a people's uprising. For that we can thank Lenin and his steadfast belief in the idea of a vanguard party to lead the workers and peasants into a socialist paradise, rather than them leading themselves.

Where were you today when I had my History exam?!

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Any historians here?

I still want to know what the Dogs v Dees rivalry was like in the mid fifties.

Anyways, back to the topic.

Pretty sure in the Footscray History Book it discusses this and points the bone @ Barrassi.


Something about Barassi living in the Dogs zone, and we thought we were a monty to get him, but Melbourne pulled a swifty and stole him from under our noses.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Anyways, back to the topic.

Pretty sure in the Footscray History Book it discusses this and points the bone @ Barrassi.


Something about Barassi living in the Dogs zone, and we thought we were a monty to get him, but Melbourne pulled a swifty and stole him from under our noses.

Seeing Barassi Snr played for Melbourne and after he died in WWII Barassi was practically taken in by Norm Smith, I'd say we were never a chance in hell of getting him.

[hujsh]

Re: Our natural enemies? And friends?

Actually, Russia is anything but democratic. The former USSR's powerbrokers (read: Communist party officials) basically became the country's capitalist class and the shift in power was sideways and not as democratic as most think. In fact, contemporary Russia is haunted by corruption. Glasnost was pretty monumental, and it shattered the state apparatus that used to control everything - but many Russians now yearn for a return to the days of official and brutal authoritarianism. Some people even think Russians are conditioned to being ruled by an iron fist, though I'm not convinced.

Hey man, if Wikipedia says their democratic, then they must be democratic