The 2009 crop, who will make it?

**Dazza** · 01-09-2010, 01:05 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

I'd put a line through Markovic as one that won't make it. Possibly a line through Roses name as I doubt he'll ever get the opportunity to play.

I think provided they have the right attitude the rest have every chance of making it with some given more time than others. Ie: Prato given more time to prove himself than Hooper (short) and Panos (seen as one dimensional)

Thorne is the big unknown.

**The Bulldogs Bite** · 01-09-2010, 01:14 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

2009 Draft selections:
15 - Christian Howard: Good chance to make it, it's not easy missing pre-season and having to play any kind of football at all but he's done well at VFL senior level. Should improve a fair bit next year. His left boot is deadly.

31 - Jason Tutt: I doubt he'll make it. Seen him a few times and his disposal is ordinary under pressure. Obviously his size works against him, too. Every time I've seen him play he looks overawed and rushed.

63 - Lukas Markovic: He's a good VFL player but that's probably it. It's mainly his lack of pace that holds him back. He's dreadfully slow meaning he'd struggle badly defending the lead at AFL level or creating separation playing as a forward. He's not the biggest guy in the world either, so I doubt he'd be able to play on monster types.

76 - Shane Thorne: Reports are his attitude is poor. He hasn't had a chance to show anything 'on the field', but it seems certain he'll be delisted.

2009 Rookie selections:
19 - Brodie Moles: He'll make it and will be elevated but I have plenty of concerns about Brodie. Needs to do a lot more, especially against better sides. He can't get involved in games against quality opposition and his disposal is hit and miss. He plays on too much in traffic, too - needs to fix this. However, he's still a good rookie pick.

35 - Andrew Hooper: Hard to say at this stage, but I'll take a punt and say he plays some games. He goes about his footy well - doesn't take a backward step. However, it's his football smarts that impresses me most. Knows where to go to get the ball, his body work is good and knows where the goals are. Good rookie pick IMO and should be elevated.

48 - Matthew Panos: Shows some positive signs but he needs to get involved more. Not many players can suffice getting under 10 possessions a game so it's something he needs to work on. Perhaps another pre-season/bigger fitness base will give us a better indication on this. He's a great kick for goal and has a solid body size. There's potential, and I like this rookie pick. Should definitely be given another season as a rookie.

59 - Eddie Prato: I haven't seen much of him. Only really at training etc. Pretty raw with a lot to learn, but apparently has been doing OK. It's worth noting Sandilands started from a mile back, and Prato certainly has ability. Should be kept on.

68 - Patrick Rose: Good VFL player but couldn't increase his tank to offer us anything in the midfield. He's found form back in the forward half but needed to show more further up the ground. He won't be retained IMO.

**Mofra** · 01-09-2010, 01:44 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

I disagree on Tutt - the last game I saw (two weeks ago) things seemed to click for him and he started to pick up the pace of the game. Not a definite, but a wait and see.

Howard looks like a talented boy playing men - hope we don't get impatient with him, as I see him as someone who will take time physically but his leg-cannon is something that is worth persisting with.

Hooper has smarts (which can't be taught) and I'd expect him to debut next year - a big pre-season should put him in calculations and a trial during the NAB cup will boost his confidence.

Moles I'm unsure of - I was critical of his disposal under pressure, it seems to have improved as the year wears on but finals will be a test for him. Certainly good depth player at the very least, another year in the system will be interesting.

Not too hopeful of the others to be honest, Marcovic is depth but not a chance to push out Lake/Williams

**Murphy'sLore** · 01-09-2010, 02:19 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Didn't Rodney Eade say that Howard and Tutt could very well play seniors next year? It sounds as if he has faith in those two at least.

**always right** · 01-09-2010, 02:43 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite

2009 Draft selections:

31 - Jason Tutt: I doubt he'll make it. Seen him a few times and his disposal is ordinary under pressure. Obviously his size works against him, too. Every time I've seen him play he looks overawed and rushed.

Wow...quick to judge

**The Bulldogs Bite** · 01-09-2010, 02:59 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by Mofra

I disagree on Tutt - the last game I saw (two weeks ago) things seemed to click for him and he started to pick up the pace of the game. Not a definite, but a wait and see.

He looked better and got involved more which was pleasing, but some of his disposal was still dreadful under pressure and inferred pressure.

Originally posted by always right

Wow...quick to judge

Miss the original post?

He did say stick your neck out and make a judgement. This is clearly mine.

**Mofra** · 01-09-2010, 03:54 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by Murphy'sLore

Didn't Rodney Eade say that Howard and Tutt could very well play seniors next year? It sounds as if he has faith in those two at least.

He also said Grant could play 10 games last year - Eade generally says what players need to hear, not what will happen

**Remi Moses** · 01-09-2010, 04:30 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

I think Eade had more faith than some supporters I'd care not to mention on a particular footy site!

**mighty_west** · 01-09-2010, 05:12 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by always right

Wow...quick to judge

It's the beauty of making early calls, we all get some wrong either way, hey, i thought Michael West was going to be a superstar from watching him go around the U/18's...BU BOW!

Most who would have watched Picken go around at Willy a few years ago would say he was no way known good enough to make a step up etc etc.

**mjp** · 01-09-2010, 05:23 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by mighty_west

i thought Michael West was going to be a superstar from watching him go around the U/18's...BU BOW!

This comment surprises me.

I still have no idea how Michael West got drafted in any way, shape or form.

Mentioning the day he kicked 13 goals against (I think) Dandenong or Eastern when all their best players were competing in a trial game doesn't count.

**GVGjr** · 01-09-2010, 05:37 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

To complete the picture for 2009 we need to consider two other players as well.
James Mulligan for being promoted to the senior list when we had the option to keep him om the rookie list for another season and Jameson Daniels who was retained on the rookie list.

**mighty_west** · 01-09-2010, 06:31 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by mjp

This comment surprises me.

I still have no idea how Michael West got drafted in any way, shape or form.

Mentioning the day he kicked 13 goals against (I think) Dandenong or Eastern when all their best players were competing in a trial game doesn't count.

Just from a few games i watched [also taped & still have on VHS as well], plus a few games for Werribee reserves, did alot of ruckwork as well as playing FF, not quick, but very smart player, unfortunatly his dodgy knee's couldn't hold up, when he re-did his knee at Werribee, it was all done & dusted.

**LostDoggy** · 01-09-2010, 06:33 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Reading the latest Bulldog mag, Howard & Tutt will both play senior footy next year.

**Go_Dogs** · 01-09-2010, 06:58 PM

Re: The 2009 crop, who will make it?

Originally posted by GVGjr

To complete the picture for 2009 we need to consider two other players as well.
James Mulligan for being promoted to the senior list when we had the option to keep him om the rookie list for another season and Jameson Daniels who was retained on the rookie list.

Good call.

Mulligan seems to have had another so so year much like he did last year, where he was then rewarded with a senior list spot. It was a bit of a surprising call at the time, but I guess the club saw potential with him.

It'll be interesting to see what becomes of him at seasons end, and I tend to think we'll give him one more year as we are a bit conservative and he still has a chance of making it.

Daniels seems to have had a bad run with injuries, and although he's showed a bit I'm not convinced we'll retain him given he hasn't been able to establish himself in the VFL seniors with consistent performances (perhaps he's still playing injured though, I don't know).

It's a massive year for us list management wise.

The 2009 crop, who will make it?

The 2009 crop, who will make it?

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