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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27655

    #16
    Re: The Adelaide Media

    Originally posted by Dry Rot
    I think it takes the cognitive process of thinking that Pick 5 has great value (it does), Each of MacGregor and Hudson have some value (they do) and then mixing up concepts of our needs, quality and quantity etc


    They dont have much of a grip on our list then. Why would we swap a promising forwardwho's actually playing senior football(Tiller) for a KP that is basically washed up and isnt playing senior football(McGregor). It's insulting to think we'd even consider a trade like that.



    Looking forward to The Footscray Mail and The Western Times article about how we are going to swap Tim Walsh for Nathan Van Berlo.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6444

      #17
      Re: The Adelaide Media

      And a good draft pick!
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • Bulldog Revolution
        Coaching Staff
        • Dec 2006
        • 3926

        #18
        Re: The Adelaide Media

        Lets package faulkner in with walsh and then get hudson, van berlo and mcgreggor

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        • Raw Toast
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 982

          #19
          Re: The Adelaide Media

          & pick 10
          [SIZE="1"][B][CENTER][I]Although it broke our hearts it did not break our will[/I][/CENTER][/B][/SIZE]

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: The Adelaide Media

            Wouldn't happen.......surely.

            Mark Stevens should reply to that by saying

            Pick 10 + Hudson + McGregor

            for

            Jordy + our 2nd rounder

            If this deal did ever eventuate i would follow park footy.

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            • Go_Dogs
              Hall of Fame
              • Jan 2007
              • 10154

              #21
              Re: The Adelaide Media

              Chris McDermott had an article in this mornings paper, stating the Crows should, as a minimum, be demanding either Adam Cooney or Ryan Griffen for Ben Hudson.

              The delusion is spreading down here peoples!
              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: The Adelaide Media

                Hahahahahha - sorry for my sarcasm laughs.

                Next Adelaide will be asking for Cooney, Griffin, McMahon, Higgins & Pick 5 for Meesen or something lol.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: The Adelaide Media

                  I used to work with a number of guys from SA. One year when the Crows were about
                  10th he brought in the mid season player by player summary from the SA press. Not one player on the list was rated less than a B grade. They were 5 and they talked them up like they were world beaters.

                  I think Port coming on board would fix a bit of it.

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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10154

                    #24
                    Re: The Adelaide Media

                    Port still don't get anywhere near the media Adelaide get. This week they will though, their playing the GF.
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      #25
                      Re: The Adelaide Media

                      There is one way we would trade pick 5 for Hudson & pick 10.

                      Clayton has a history of using first round picks on players most casual observers would rate much lower - Ray, Williams, Higgins, Everitt.

                      What if Clayton has already decided on a Callan Ward, Dave Gourdis or Steven Gaertner?

                      If we could downgrade our first pick and still get the kid we want we would be basically getting Hudson for free.

                      There is no way this would be agreed on until after the draft camp because until everyone gets together and starts chatting we would have no idea about who will and won't be still there at 10.

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                      • Go_Dogs
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 10154

                        #26
                        Re: The Adelaide Media

                        That's an interesting thought. I guess even if we have pick 5 there are no guarantees that we will still get who we want with pick 5, but if we are sure that we can get the player, or one of 2 whom we rate equally, with pick 10, it could certainly become a possibility. I'm sure the Crows, with their aging list, would love to grab a top 5 draft pick.
                        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                        • Bulldog Revolution
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3926

                          #27
                          Re: The Adelaide Media

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          There is one way we would trade pick 5 for Hudson & pick 10.

                          Clayton has a history of using first round picks on players most casual observers would rate much lower - Ray, Williams, Higgins, Everitt.

                          What if Clayton has already decided on a Callan Ward, Dave Gourdis or Steven Gaertner?

                          If we could downgrade our first pick and still get the kid we want we would be basically getting Hudson for free.

                          There is no way this would be agreed on until after the draft camp because until everyone gets together and starts chatting we would have no idea about who will and won't be still there at 10.
                          I know what you are saying but

                          I think the only way we would do this would be based on recruiting a much younger player
                          than Hudson,

                          Cant see anyway number 5 is heading to Adelaide personally - its far more likely for us to downgrade a 2nd, 3rd or 4th rounder IMO

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                          • Raw Toast
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 982

                            #28
                            Re: The Adelaide Media

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            There is one way we would trade pick 5 for Hudson & pick 10.

                            Clayton has a history of using first round picks on players most casual observers would rate much lower - Ray, Williams, Higgins, Everitt.

                            What if Clayton has already decided on a Callan Ward, Dave Gourdis or Steven Gaertner?

                            If we could downgrade our first pick and still get the kid we want we would be basically getting Hudson for free.

                            There is no way this would be agreed on until after the draft camp because until everyone gets together and starts chatting we would have no idea about who will and won't be still there at 10.
                            I'd been wondering about this too but the timeline's pretty short with draft camp ending only three days before the trade period begins. Could backfire big-time but it would be nice to get Hudson basically for free as well.

                            Eade's not averse to risks either and last year Clayton pretty much knew exactly who we would get before the draft started so he must have a fair idea who other clubs are going for (or at least who they are not going for).

                            Love to be a fly on the wall for these conversations...
                            [SIZE="1"][B][CENTER][I]Although it broke our hearts it did not break our will[/I][/CENTER][/B][/SIZE]

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10154

                              #29
                              Re: The Adelaide Media

                              I ended up emailing Chris McDermott after his article on Sunday, and he replied to me earlier this afternoon stating that he didn't believe the Dogs would consider the Cooney/Griffen for Hudson trade, and also that he doubted either player would be interested in coming back to Adelaide anyway.

                              He did however state that it was more to emphasis that Adelaide should play hardball this trade period, and not allow themselves to be walked over as they have been in the past.

                              Hopefully both teams are able to come to a satisfactory agreement early in the week. It would be a shame for Hudson to have to enter the PSD, however I'm hopeful a trade can still be worked out.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • Sockeye Salmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6365

                                #30
                                Re: The Adelaide Media

                                Originally posted by McMahon#23
                                I ended up emailing Chris McDermott after his article on Sunday, and he replied to me earlier this afternoon stating that he didn't believe the Dogs would consider the Cooney/Griffen for Hudson trade, and also that he doubted either player would be interested in coming back to Adelaide anyway.

                                He did however state that it was more to emphasis that Adelaide should play hardball this trade period, and not allow themselves to be walked over as they have been in the past.

                                Hopefully both teams are able to come to a satisfactory agreement early in the week. It would be a shame for Hudson to have to enter the PSD, however I'm hopeful a trade can still be worked out.
                                When have Adelaide been walked over in the past? They hardly ever trade and from memory they did quite well out of Stenglein and picked up Thompson cheap. The traded Massie (a 1st rounder) for Ben Nelson, didn't they?

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