Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13191

    #16
    Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

    [QUOTE=comrade;179968]Addison's not a bad option on Goddard. He obviously got torched by Thomas but Goddard just doesn't have the same leg speed to trouble Dylan as much.

    I'm not usually one for pre-meditated violence, but I wouldn't be against Dylan coming off a long run and splitting Goddard down the middle.
    Not only does it take away a major weapon, but I just hate Goddard.

    Just do it, Dylan.

    At 100 kg Hahn was a much better option for this role.
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • Ozza
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Mar 2008
      • 6407

      #17
      Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

      I'd like to see Picken go to Goddard. Maybe Crossy could be given the stopping job on Hayes and we take our chances a bit with Dal santo and Montagna.

      They have too many guns to try and shut them all down. Hayes and Goddard have typically been the two to kill us the most - so match them up intently and everyone else has to try like buggery to win their position.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 17932

        #18
        Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

        Originally posted by 1eyedog

        At 100 kg Hahn was a much better option for this role.
        He's not fast enough to build up the speed required to split someone down the middle.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15326

          #19
          Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

          Originally posted by 1eyedog

          At 100 kg Hahn was a much better option for this role.
          The way Hahn is moving at present he might have to push off about now.

          And besides that Hahn has never been a 'physical' player and he hasn't been named.

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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            #20
            Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            At 100 kg Hahn was a much better option for this role.
            The only thing in danger from Hahn at the moment is the Titanic... And I think Hahn's great grandfather already took care of that.
            [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6407

              #21
              Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

              [QUOTE=1eyedog;179971]
              Originally posted by comrade
              Addison's not a bad option on Goddard. He obviously got torched by Thomas but Goddard just doesn't have the same leg speed to trouble Dylan as much.

              I'm not usually one for pre-meditated violence, but I wouldn't be against Dylan coming off a long run and splitting Goddard down the middle.
              Not only does it take away a major weapon, but I just hate Goddard.

              Just do it, Dylan.

              At 100 kg Hahn was a much better option for this role.
              (edit: sorry for the dodgy quoting box)

              In my experience, you don't need to be big and heavy to lay someone out with a shirtfront/hard bump. You just have to be good at it - and have a little luck and skill with your timing.

              Cross and Addison laid some very important hits last week. They weren't pre-meditated - they just happened within the context of the game by going in hard. Hopefully we will have plenty of players prepared to go hard enough to do some damage.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                Originally posted by Mantis
                ... the heart is telling the head to get rooted.
                Love it Mantis!

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                • Sedat
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 11147

                  #23
                  Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                  Originally posted by Ozza
                  They have too many guns to try and shut them all down. Hayes and Goddard have typically been the two to kill us the most - so match them up intently and everyone else has to try like buggery to win their position.
                  I like your thinking with the Goddard match-up but he hasn't been much of an influence in recent matches between the two teams. Was even exposed in last year's PF when Griffen torched him early and then Hahn kicked 2 on him in the 2nd qtr when he was too loose down back. Hayes and Roo on the other hand...
                  "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 17932

                    #24
                    Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                    Goddard only needs a few telling touches to have an impact. I remember that run through the middle late in the prelim last year where he kicked long to Roo to put them in front.

                    We can't let him get free.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Ozza
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6407

                      #25
                      Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      I like your thinking with the Goddard match-up but he hasn't been much of an influence in recent matches between the two teams. Was even exposed in last year's PF when Griffen torched him early and then Hahn kicked 2 on him in the 2nd qtr when he was too loose down back. Hayes and Roo on the other hand...
                      I know he had a couple kicked on him last year - but he was still a good player for them in the prelim...and this year he is a little more midfield than defence. I know Supercoach and stats aren't always a great indication, and aren't the be all and end all - but I was interested to check - and he averages 125 against us - including 174 & 152 last year.

                      He's so dangerous with the ball, and so driven this year - that he scares the sh1t out of me - playing as a mid!

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11147

                        #26
                        Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                        Originally posted by Ozza
                        I know he had a couple kicked on him last year - but he was still a good player for them in the prelim...and this year he is a little more midfield than defence. I know Supercoach and stats aren't always a great indication, and aren't the be all and end all - but I was interested to check - and he averages 125 against us - including 174 & 152 last year.

                        He's so dangerous with the ball, and so driven this year - that he scares the sh1t out of me - playing as a mid!
                        Oh I'm in 100% agreement with you on the danger that he poses. One of the elite kicks in the competition. If your suggestion of Picken eventuates, they might try and isolate Goddard in the forward 50 - I can live with Goddard stationed down there as opposed to delivering it in there with laser precision.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6407

                          #27
                          Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Oh I'm in 100% agreement with you on the danger that he poses. One of the elite kicks in the competition. If your suggestion of Picken eventuates, they might try and isolate Goddard in the forward 50 - I can live with Goddard stationed down there as opposed to delivering it in there with laser precision.
                          Yeah that becomes an issue as Picko isn't great in the air...but they would be flipping the defenders around in that case to get Morris or Williams onto Goddard deep.

                          Can't stop thinking about the game. So nervous!

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                          • EasternWest
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 9996

                            #28
                            Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Addison's not a bad option on Goddard. He obviously got torched by Thomas but Goddard just doesn't have the same leg speed to trouble Dylan as much.

                            I'm not usually one for pre-meditated violence, but I wouldn't be against Dylan coming off a long run and splitting Goddard down the middle.

                            Not only does it take away a major weapon, but I just hate Goddard.

                            Just do it, Dylan.
                            How did you feel when Brodie Holland did that to Monty in 06?

                            I would be filthy on our team mentality and Dylan's character if he did that. If it's in play, fair enough, if it's Holland style, I guarantee you I'll be changing my username.
                            "It's over. It's all over."

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 17932

                              #29
                              Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by dfa4pm
                              How did you feel when Brodie Holland did that to Monty in 06?

                              I would be filthy on our team mentality and Dylan's character if he did that. If it's in play, fair enough, if it's Holland style, I guarantee you I'll be changing my username.
                              I was angry but I also thought it was stupid; why the hell would someone knock out Monty? If you're going to do it, make sure it's a key opponent.

                              I'm desperate to see the Bulldogs in a GF. I can live with anything that will make it happen.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13191

                                #30
                                Re: Match Preview - PF - St.Kilda vs Western Bulldogs

                                [QUOTE=Ozza;179977]
                                Originally posted by 1eyedog

                                (edit: sorry for the dodgy quoting box)

                                In my experience, you don't need to be big and heavy to lay someone out with a shirtfront/hard bump. You just have to be good at it - and have a little luck and skill with your timing.

                                Cross and Addison laid some very important hits last week. They weren't pre-meditated - they just happened within the context of the game by going in hard. Hopefully we will have plenty of players prepared to go hard enough to do some damage.
                                In my experience when you are 100+ kg and get a run at it luck and timing have very little to do with it.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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