Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

[LostDoggy]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

Eerily, those are the same picks we got in 1999 when we traded Leon Cameron to Richmond. Hahn and Hargrave ensued. What were the odds of these same picks?

You remember this fact? From 11 years ago? I am astonished by some of the people on this forum.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

You remember this fact? From 11 years ago? I am astonished by some of the people on this forum.

I'm not.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

I guess Josh now has only one option and that is to work his arse off and try to do the things he needs to do to get a regular gig in the side. If he has a bad season his currency will plummet and he might find himself playing in the WAFL in 2012.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

Why can't Josh be our 'Offensive Player?' We now have Sherman to add to all the other 'defensive players.' I'm really glad we didn't send Josh off to other places and I hope he gets his chances more next year.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

Why can't Josh be our 'Offensive Player?' We now have Sherman to add to all the other 'defensive players.' I'm really glad we didn't send Josh off to other places and I hope he gets his chances more next year.

I agree. He is who he is, he has strengths and weaknesses, whether they fit what the team needs is a matter of coaching. E.g. Farren Ray

[Mantis]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

I agree. He is who he is, he has strengths and weaknesses, whether they fit what the team needs is a matter of coaching. E.g. Farren Ray

That's a cop out.

Josh needs to improve his fitness, his work ethic and his hardness at the contest. Hanging out the back for 'joe the goose's' doesn't cut it in top 4 teams.

Farren Ray fits into St.Kilda's system as he has a very defined role, but we all saw in last years GF & in GF 2 this year that when you need him to take the game on (which is our style) he still coughs it up.

[GVGjr]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

That's a cop out.

Josh needs to improve his fitness, his work ethic and his hardness at the contest. Hanging out the back for 'joe the goose's' doesn't cut it in top 4 teams.

It's interesting that for a guy with so many flaws in his ethic the club actually still rate him very highly.

[Mantis]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

It's interesting that for a guy with so many flaws in his ethic the club actually still rate him very highly.

Probably because he is our most naturally gifted player on the list; he has very clean hands, a great leap, is strong over-head and kicks it ok.

The glimpses we have seen of what Josh can do over the past 3 years has been enough to wet the taste-buds, but for some reason or another he probably hasn't pushed himself hard enough to be a consistent performer... Let's hope he works hard this pre-season such that he can play his part next year.

[mighty_west]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

It's interesting that for a guy with so many flaws in his ethic the club actually still rate him very highly.

Do they really rate him that highly or was it all a last pitched effort to steal a pick in the teens at the 11th hour?

The Hawks clearly were desperate to grab Hill by offering the 2nd & 3rd round selections which seem very much in our favour, seemed from day one all this tug of war action trying to bluff each other out, originally reported that the Hawks only prepared to dish their 3rd rounder, we seemed to need the 2nd pick perhaps to snag Walker in some kind of deal.

Crunch time 10 minutes to go, Hawks offer the 2 picks, we see how desperate they really are for Josh's services by demanding pick 19!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Picks 37 and 66 for Hill, snubbed

Do they really rate him that highly or was it all a last pitched effort to steal a pick in the teens at the 11th hour?

The Hawks clearly were desperate to grab Hill by offering the 2nd & 3rd round selections which seem very much in our favour, seemed from day one all this tug of war action trying to bluff each other out, originally reported that the Hawks only prepared to dish their 3rd rounder, we seemed to need the 2nd pick perhaps to snag Walker in some kind of deal.

Crunch time 10 minutes to go, Hawks offer the 2 picks, we see how desperate they really are for Josh's services by demanding pick 19!

We can't look at the Hill deal in isolation. There may have been a number of strategies in hand when considering offers and how to use the proceeds.

To make an offer with 10 minutes to spare is ridiculous when they had 7 days to consider their options.

All on-trading options were shot when we recieved that offer. Clearly, we do rate him higher than their offer. My understanding is we did not put him up for trade. Hawthorn asked the question.