Embracing the past

[The Coon Dog]

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Geez there's some Grant love going on. What did that guy ever do?

I doubt you could ever find a Bulldog supporter who would have a bad word to say about Chris Grant. Quite simply, one of the most sincere people you could ever wish to meet.

[EasternWest]

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I doubt you could ever find a Bulldog supporter who would have a bad word to say about Chris Grant. Quite simply, one of the most sincere people you could ever wish to meet.

I'm sure you recognise I was taking the mickey.

FWIW I'm totally with you. I don't mean to wander too far off thread, but I wonder if anyone here has ever had an encounter with CG that didn't meet expectations?

[KT31]

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Geez there's some Grant love going on. What did that guy ever do?

I remember at one game Chris was on the boundary and a Mum yelled out to Chris "I want to have your babies", followed by a, male, Woof contributer yelling out "me too".

[Dazza]

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I must be in the minority, but I love our current jumper - dog and all.

Same.

[The Pie Man]

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I doubt you could ever find a Bulldog supporter who would have a bad word to say about Chris Grant. Quite simply, one of the most sincere people you could ever wish to meet.

I'm preaching to the choir, but I feel like reminiscing

The KP in the comp I enjoyed watching the most at his peak - ridiculously skilled both sides of his body, hitting targets like an elite midfielder.

I know he nearly (should've) won Charlie in 96 from CHB, though 97-99 he and Carey were the dominant CHF's on the game - I look back on the comparison like I do with the Waugh twins....hear me out

Duck was more effective - like Steve with the better average. Turtle was much better to watch at his peak - like Mark.

I've never met him, but he comes accross as good a bloke as he was a player, and everyone on here concurs so it's safe to say it's true. I was shattered when he retired, and am very happy he's still around the club

[Missing-Dog]

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I feel privileged to have been able to witness his entire career. Oozes quality.

[KT31]

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I feel privileged to have been able to witness his entire career. Oozes quality.

This.

[LostDoggy]

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I'm preaching to the choir, but I feel like reminiscing

The KP in the comp I enjoyed watching the most at his peak - ridiculously skilled both sides of his body, hitting targets like an elite midfielder.

I know he nearly (should've) won Charlie in 96 from CHB, though 97-99 he and Carey were the dominant CHF's on the game - I look back on the comparison like I do with the Waugh twins....hear me out

Duck was more effective - like Steve with the better average. Turtle was much better to watch at his peak - like Mark.

I've never met him, but he comes accross as good a bloke as he was a player, and everyone on here concurs so it's safe to say it's true. I was shattered when he retired, and am very happy he's still around the club

completely agree - the thing I get frustrated about is when you explain this to non-bulldogs supporters. Many uneducated footy supporters have scoffed when I make the comparison of Carey and Grant in the same sentence, but seeing Grant in 97/98 where he completely dominated week after week was almost unrivalled in that era (apart from Carey).

I know I am biased but if he had a larger persona or played for a "big" club he would be regularly placed in the same bracket as Hird, Voss, Buckley & Duck. Maybe the lack of premiership hurts his legacy, but it doesn't seem to have done much harm to Buckley's legacy.

I suppose I can be content that he is our Robbie Flower...

[LostDoggy]

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I know I am biased but if he had a larger persona or played for a "big" club he would be regularly placed in the same bracket as Hird, Voss, Buckley & Duck. Maybe the lack of premiership hurts his legacy, but it doesn't seem to have done much harm to Buckley's legacy.

Buckley doesn't remotely belong in that group -- if he played for anyone other than Collingwood he would be remembered as Mark Ricciuto is, a gun player, not a legend of the game. Buckley doesn't deserve to tie Chris's shoelaces (Granty had all of Buckley's kicking skill plus a whole raft of other things, and had him covered for match influence as well), but that's objectivity for you. Hird and Voss are another story -- they're pretty unique types, and Vossy brought a lot to the team other than just his skill, not that any of it has translated into coaching, mind you.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Buckley doesn't remotely belong in that group -- if he played for anyone other than Collingwood he would be remembered as Mark Ricciuto is, a gun player, not a legend of the game. Buckley doesn't deserve to tie Chris's shoelaces (Granty had all of Buckley's kicking skill plus a whole raft of other things, and had him covered for match influence as well), but that's objectivity for you. Hird and Voss are another story -- they're pretty unique types, and Vossy brought a lot to the team other than just his skill, not that any of it has translated into coaching, mind you.

I don't agree about Buckley at all. He was a star.

Hird is easily the most over-rated of that group.

[LostDoggy]

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I don't agree about Buckley at all. He was a star.

Hird is easily the most over-rated of that group.

Why do you think this? Certainly he was injury-prone for much of his career, but he did pull some matches out of his butt. Having said that, I can see what you mean -- I thought he was a blowhard too, and pretty soft, until he started really influencing games later in his career, and I appreciate a good footy brain: he's basically Murph-plus.

Vision is also a highly underrated and rare commodity, and he had it in spades.

Bucks not overrated? Then Ricciuto, Paul Kelly and Brent Harvey are legends too.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Why do you think this? Certainly he was injury-prone for much of his career, but he did pull some matches out of his butt. Having said that, I can see what you mean -- I thought he was a blowhard too, and pretty soft, until he started really influencing games later in his career, and I appreciate a good footy brain: he's basically Murph-plus.

Vision is also a highly underrated and rare commodity, and he had it in spades.

Bucks not overrated? Then Ricciuto, Paul Kelly and Brent Harvey are legends too.

Buckley/Grant/R. Harvey/Ricciuto > Hird >>>>> Kelly/B. Harvey/Archer

At his absolute best Koutafides was better than all of them, but he only ever did it three times.

[Desipura]

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Buckley/Grant/R. Harvey/Ricciuto > Hird >>>>> Kelly/B. Harvey/Archer

At his absolute best Koutafides was better than all of them, but he only ever did it three times.

Buckley, Hird, Grant, throw a blanket over the rest. Kouta had one break out year, hence why he was overpaid for his remaining years.
Ablett, Carey Lockett & Dunstall to name just a few had more infuence on a game than the above. No coincedence they were all forwards who kicked goals

[LostDoggy]

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Not that I've read ll the posts but I think the bulldog should be bigger on some things. E.g this year the bulldog was huge on the Breast Cancer training jumpers. Ever since they elongated Robodog to make it look meaner it has improved. It's much better than the logo before that one which I never really liked as it reminds me of the dog face you learn to draw in primary school.

I think you'll find that jumpers will always change and that this is benficial in that supporters buy more jumpers which raises funds for the club, and even the jumper will change year to year subtley so fans keep buying more. Keeps a healthy bank balance

Back to my suggestion of a Massive bulldog that is amost the size of the jumper itself would be good as a once or twice a year thing. He's looks vicious old "Robodog." This year I purchased about four jumpers including the reproduction First 18 54 grand final jumper. I'm a sucker for any jumper variations they produce and also love the old school look that is devoid of all sponsors. Its nice to see that stuff removed every now and again and remind us of where we've come from. My canterbury jumper form the late 90's with full arms is testament to that and more of a July game attending jumper.

But to the future the more variations the better. Hopefully next year I can successfully bid on the framed variations signed jumpers at the "Night with the trainers" function.

[LostDoggy]

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I was raised on a diet of a red hoop on a white hoop on a royal blue jumper,
But I love my team regardless of what they wear, hessian sacks would not turn me off, but pink lycra would seriously question my faith.