Delistings?

[Missing Dog]

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Final de-listings need to be made by Friday, so let's not speculate anything...it's only 2 days away

[LostDoggy]

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Keeping Hahn in 2011 will hurt our chances in 2012 and onwards by not giving guys like Jones and Roughead a chance to develop at FF/CHF

Not sure I'd agree with that. Firstly they don't play the same roles.
Also everyone thought it was the same with Eagleton this season yet by the end of season through injury/problems he was required.

Maybe the Gold Coast would be looking for a mature body, mentoring role & great clubman & could pick Mitch up for nothing in the PSD.

Not sure GCS will take a punt on him if we don't. Clayton isn't that silly.

[mighty_west]

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Not sure GCS will take a punt on him if we don't. Clayton isn't that silly.

GC have no forwards what so ever, so he could be a decent fit for a season, maybe 2, that said, Clayton has said they won't be taking any more mature players.

[LostDoggy]

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We are too soft.

As Dog House says, do we want to get games into our younger players to put us in a position to get past a PF?

The other option is to be soft and keep players like Mitch on our list because he has been a "loyal servant". However, this doesnt do anything for advancing the future of the club.

I want us to actually win a premiership and not "just" make the finals series and be everybody's second team because we are good blokes or because they feel sorry for us due to our lack of success.

[gohardorgohome]

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To me it all depends if Mitch Hahn was playing with any injuries during the year and whether he is over them. From memory he was smashed a couple of times and that could have had impact on other parts of his body.

His form was not good but if he was playing hurt as a result of impact injuries, and he is now fully fit, and he is tested that his pace and agility under fatigue is up to scratch with previous years, then I would keep him on at a much reduced salary.

If Mitch cannot tick all of these boxes I would like to think he should be given a thank you send off by the club.

[LostDoggy]

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What's the point of a one year deal for a player who's got the best out of his ability, but is clearly two steps behind todays pace?

Mitch is two steps behind the guys who are two steps behind today's pace.

He's been a terrific player for us; but he has to go. He played 19 games this season and his form did not warrant eight. The same thing would happen again next season if he played on.

[Remi Moses]

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Agree entirely ^^^^a player can hit the wall very quickly the way Mitch plays.

[Bulldog Joe]

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I'm all about respecting senior players and that is why I would have through a decision should have been made quickly one way or the other.
It would appear that we want to keep him and just have to get creative to do so.
If he stays he deserves more than the minimum.

Disagree GVG.
Mitch only warrants a minimum with match payments, which is better than delisting.
Option for Mitch is PSD if anyone else is interested.

Personally, I would like him retained. He could be important cover at the business end.

[comrade]

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Personally, I would like him retained. He could be important cover at the business end.

We used him as cover at the business end this year and it got us nowhere.

BJ, I appreciate your insights but I can't stand that way of thinking. It reeks of conservatism; unfortunately, it probably means the footy department shares the same opinion as you.

When he is retained we'll hear a comment such as 'with the draft pool diluted, we felt a mature body like Mitch's was going to give us more than a late draftee'.

Obviously we've forgotten that it is possible to pick up players such as Lake, Boyd, Morris, Picken and Harbrow with late/rookie picks.

[GVGjr]

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Disagree GVG.
Mitch only warrants a minimum with match payments, which is better than delisting.
Option for Mitch is PSD if anyone else is interested.

Personally, I would like him retained. He could be important cover at the business end.

I'm not saying that Hahn should be on an average wage but if he was maintained he should do a bit better than the minimum. Perhaps an incentive based contract might work well.

As for keeping him on, I can see your logic but I think we need to be testing the draft with a few picks that hopefully develop into decent players for us.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Obviously we've forgotten that it is possible to pick up players such as Lake, Boyd, Morris, Picken and Harbrow with late/rookie picks.

Or players the calibre of Brent Colbert, Paul O'Shea, Rowan Nayna, Gavin Hughes, Henry White and John Shaw

[GVGjr]

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Or players the calibre of Brent Colbert, Paul O'Shea, Rowan Nayna, Gavin Hughes, Henry White and John Shaw

So your view is that we shouldn't look at late draft picks?
To me that is a sign that we don't have a lot of faith in our recruiting team. Why not back ourselves in to identify a talented player.

[Rocco Jones]

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Or players the calibre of Brent Colbert, Paul O'Shea, Rowan Nayna, Gavin Hughes, Henry White and John Shaw

I think the point comrade was trying to raise is that we are well aware of these failures but seem to be ignoring the fact that late draft selections can also be successful.

[EasternWest]

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I think the point comrade was trying to raise is that we are well aware of these failures but seem to be ignoring the fact that late draft selections can also be successful.

I think the point is noted, but I'd wager the hit/miss ratio is pretty high towards miss on that one.

[LostDoggy]

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Or players the calibre of Brent Colbert, Paul O'Shea, Rowan Nayna, Gavin Hughes, Henry White and John Shaw

Sockeye ... I would prefer to see the club trying to recruit new players who "may" be able to add somthing to our list rather hold on to players "who have credits" but have not been able to get us past a PF.

No use keeping on doing the same because we havent advanced.

Someone used the comparison of the Bulldogs and the Australian Cricket team the other day and it was spot on. Harder to get out of the side than in.