Delistings?

[Bulldog4life]

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Sockeye ... I would prefer to see the club trying to recruit new players who "may" be able to add somthing to our list rather hold on to players "who have credits" but have not been able to get us past a PF.

No use keeping on doing the same because we havent advanced.

Someone used the comparison of the Bulldogs and the Australian Cricket team the other day and it was spot on. Harder to get out of the side than in.

Which players who deserved a game this year couldn't get in?

[LostDoggy]

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What was the story with the rookies as the AFL site doesn't list anything. Upgrades, retains or delistings.

[Bulldog4life]

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What was the story with the rookies as the AFL site doesn't list anything. Upgrades, retains or delistings.

I read in the HUN that only 2 rookies were retained as rookies. Those being Panos & Prato.

[Bulldog Joe]

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We used him as cover at the business end this year and it got us nowhere. BJ, I appreciate your insights but I can't stand that way of thinking. It reeks of conservatism; unfortunately, it probably means the footy department shares the same opinion as you.

When he is retained we'll hear a comment such as 'with the draft pool diluted, we felt a mature body like Mitch's was going to give us more than a late draftee'.

Obviously we've forgotten that it is possible to pick up players such as Lake, Boyd, Morris, Picken and Harbrow with late/rookie picks.

Mitch was ok in the pre-final and it is doubtful we can pick up someone with our available picks who can provide what Mitch will for 2011.

I understand the need for continual renewal, but we also need to maintain a premiership challenge. We have plenty of developing youth and if players like Jones and Cordy make the expected progress and Jarrad Grant takes another step we will be transitioning in a successful manner.

However, if something sets them back, Hahn provides a competitive player, who is capable.

[LostDoggy]

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Couldn't agree more, even though I agree that Mitch has slowed up, I hate reading all the bagging of him on here.

[chef]

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Mitch was ok in the pre-final and it is doubtful we can pick up someone with our available picks who can provide what Mitch will for 2011.

I understand the need for continual renewal, but we also need to maintain a premiership challenge. We have plenty of developing youth and if players like Jones and Cordy make the expected progress and Jarrad Grant takes another step we will be transitioning in a successful manner.

However, if something sets them back, Hahn provides a competitive player, who is capable.

I'm happy to keep Mitch on the list as insurance on Bazza's fitness and only give him games when he needs a rest or is injured/suspended..

[EasternWest]

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Couldn't agree more, even though I agree that Mitch has slowed up, I hate reading all the bagging of him on here.

With respect, I'm not sure I've seen anyone bag Mitch. In fact I'd say it's the opposite. Most acknowledge what a great servant of our club he has been. He's been terrific.

Mitch's quality and service aside, most seem to think his time is up/there's no point keeping him at the expense of developing youth.

FWIW, I am with those that think Mitch is done as an AFL player, and thank him for his superb effort.

[LostDoggy]

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I read in the HUN that only 2 rookies were retained as rookies. Those being Panos & Prato.

So Hooper and Moles upgraded, Panos and Prato retained, Rose and Daniels delisted?

[Bulldog4life]

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So Hooper and Moles upgraded, Panos and Prato retained, Rose and Daniels delisted?

It mentioned the upgrades and the retained rookies but it didn't quote who the delisted rookies were. I assume you are right though.

[mjp]

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However, if something sets them back, Hahn provides a competitive player, who is capable.

Competitive? Yes. Capable? No.

He is too slow to play back and does not provide a reliable forward option. I just don't understand the club's thought process here. We made the same move with Eagleton last year - one more year as a 'backup' - and exactly how did that work out for us?

He has been a great servant but his last 12-months have been poor and he has lost all of his leg-speed...

[boydogs]

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We made the same move with Eagleton last year - one more year as a 'backup' - and exactly how did that work out for us?

I think using Eagleton as an example supports the opposite argument
Eagleton 2010 > Hahn 2010

[Mantis]

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I think using Eagleton as an example supports the opposite argument
Eagleton 2010 > Hahn 2010

The point is that we got exactly from Eagleton what we expected, some reasonable to good footy against the weaker sides and then pretty much nothing against the quality teams.

It would be the same for Hahn.

[LostDoggy]

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Hahn has been unable to show poise and balance to get to and win contests. An absolute must in today's football at the top level. As a result he ended being more a liability...fumbling, not able to bend over, missing the ball and colliding with players. I think he has been a great servant of our club but cannot fathom how, in the past, Rohan Smith was encouraged to retire when he lost his speed, yet Mitch appears to be treated differently.

[FrediKanoute]

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So your view is that we shouldn't look at late draft picks?
To me that is a sign that we don't have a lot of faith in our recruiting team. Why not back ourselves in to identify a talented player.

Not sure its a sign of no confidence in the recruiting team more of a realisation that by the time you are getting to pick 140 in a draft the pool of talent is thin.....very thin and you then start balancing whether the highly speculative guy you pick will ever make it against a guy like Hahn who if asked could come in and contribute...maybe not at the level needed consistently, but he could still offer more than a 140th pick kid.

[LostDoggy]

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I do think that Mitch provides value in the wet, rare as that is. May be useful for Willy though.