Delistings?

[chef]

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Just offering the other end of the argument. Hahn's value has been beaten down significantly on this forum. If you rate Hahn's season and value so lowly I can't imagine what you must think of the MC who gave him 20 odd games this year. Just saying that if it was as clear-cut as everyone here is making out there wouldn't be a decision to be made, he would already be gone!

On current form he is definitely ahead of Hill and Jones. He is probably ahead of Grant, despite Grant closing fast. Don't get me wrong, I think Grant will be a star and I have great faith in Jones from what we saw this year, but there is the youth rule to be applied. The question to be asked is whether they will go past Hahn next year, whether Hill can muster up enough of the correct attitude to look like anything more than an uninterested ragdoll who feeds off others' good work, and whether after this we still have enough forward talent to last us the year.

Mitch is not one of my 'favourite' players. I am actually of the view that he should go, but it pains me to see such a one sided set of views when clearly he deserves more consideration than he is being afforded.

But will he be in 12 months time, that is what the MC need to work out.

[Bulldog Joe]

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The situation that has arisen with Hahn is not all that dis- similar with other senior players who have been selected at different stages during the 2010 season, even though their form didn't justify it, for example players such as Minson, Gia, Gilbee and Hahn. There was a reluctance to persevere with young talent in Jones and Roughead. Our lack of depth
also proved a problem due in the main to poor recruiting.

I think you are being unduly harsh. Gia particularly earnt his spot as evidenced by the B&F. Gilbee, although below standard on a few occasions was never in any serious danger of losing his spot on form and Minson was sent back to Williamstown and made to earn his games with dominant efforts in the VFL, where he was definitely better than Roughead. Hahn did lose his spot and played at Willi and only returned when there was a significant injury crisis.

Wow. If Jonesey and Grant looked 'out of their depth' at times, Mitch just looked sad in most of the games he played. If getting towelled up in every position he played by certified hacks isn't 'out of his depth', I don't know what is. His only value that I saw was in cameos in the wet, when his lack of pace wasn't such a massive liability.

No way Mitch should be ahead of Hill -- we are talking about a bloke we wanted a 1st round pick for to trade to the Hawks, and a guy who may or may not be worth the last spot on the list. If Mitch played instead of Josh in finals last year, that says more about Josh's attitude, and the conservatism of our match committee, than their respective current value to an AFL team. Hawthorn offered a couple of middling picks for Hill. Ask them what they would have offered for Mitch.

Well if we go back to the last game Mitch was light years ahead of Grant (very disappointing finals from Grant).

Although, I do agree that for 2011 we should expect Jones and Grant to be better players than Hahn. Hill has the talent to leave Mitch well behind, if he somehows finds the desire to do so.

From reading a few posts on here and elsewhere it appears that one of the serious problems for Josh could relate to his father.

Is there any chance we could trade Josh's Dad to Collingwood - I think he could be well placed in the cheer squad with Joffa.

[gohardorgohome]

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It all depends if he was playing hurt throughout the year. If he can now perform sprint and agility and recovery running at a level that is as good or better than previous seasons, then I would consider keeping him.

I'd think the club would be giving him the best chance to get right for the pre season. If he is not up to this level then it's time to call it a day.

[divvydan]

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Mark Stevens says Hahn is gone

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-cut-mitch-hahn/story-e6frf9jf-1225950361878

MITCH Hahn's career at the Western Bulldogs appears over.

It understood Hahn has been told of his de-listing, with an official statement from the club imminent.

The Dogs had to make a call either way on the 29-year-old before today's list lodgement deadline.

Hahn, a life member with 181 games to his name, struggled for form this season and was not helped by the Dogs being under salary cap pressure leading into next season.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-cut-mitch-hahn/story-e6frf9jf-1225950361878

No mention of Tiller or anyone else in that article.

* He mentions "today" rather than tomorrow as it is going to be in tomorrow's paper

[The Pie Man]

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Mark Stevens says Hahn is gone

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-cut-mitch-hahn/story-e6frf9jf-1225950361878

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/western-bulldogs-cut-mitch-hahn/story-e6frf9jf-1225950361878

No mention of Tiller or anyone else in that article.

* He mentions "today" rather than tomorrow as it is going to be in tomorrow's paper

If Stevo is on the money (he generally is with Dogs news) then it's a time of mixed feelings....ultimately, I feel we move forward, but all would agree Mitch has been a tireless worker for the cause - and for someone with perceived poor kicking skills, he worked a technique that slotted more than he missed in his time as a forward.

Another door surely opens here, which has me excited.

[Before I Die]

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Jake Niall has run with the same story

Link

[soupman]

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As much as I feel it is the right decision to end his career, it still pains me to see a player like Hahn go. One of those players who you are proud to see wearing your colours, and whilst never being your "favorite" was always up there in players you loved watching.

It's a shame his trademark "force way through multiple players from both sides whilst picking up the ball and seemingly randomly throwing it onto boot for goal" wasn't seen for the past few seasons, but at least in 2009 we got to see him beat up Essendon again.

In terms of list management it is the right choice. Considering our forward line next year will feature Hall, Gia, Jones and a ruck man it can't afford another slow player unless they really impact games, and Hahn in 2010 didn't.

[boydogs]

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Considering our forward line next year will feature Hall, Gia, Jones and a ruck man it can't afford another slow player unless they really impact games, and Hahn in 2010 didn't.

Hall & Jones aren't bad for big guys, but you can add Higgins