Will Steven Tiller still be at the club in 2011?

[GVGjr]

Along the lines of the Mitch Hahn thread and poll.

Do you think there is a spot for Stephen Tiller on the list next season?

If he is kept on what role will he play?

[The Pie Man]

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I voted no to the question 'will he still be at the club' but I actually think he deserves another year to challenge the likes of Shaggy for a spot. Robbed of any continuity to really challenge since a promising 08 finals series.

[The Coon Dog]

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Yes, I think he can play & if he gets his body right he could be handy as a sub, given he can play both forward & back.

[GVGjr]

Re: Will Steven Tiller still be at the club in 2011?

Yes, I think he can play & if he gets his body right he could be handy as a sub, given he can play both forward & back.

Has been used up forward much in the last 2 years even at Williamstown?
I sort of think we have given up on that for Tiller.

He adds depth but I guess it comes down to if we think he is ahead of Markovic, Mulligan and Boumann.

[Desipura]

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Has been used up forward much in the last 2 years even at Williamstown?
I sort of think we have given up on that for Tiller.

He adds depth but I guess it comes down to if we think he is ahead of Markovic, Mulligan and Boumann.

If Hargrave copped an injury, I would rather play Tiller then Mulligan or Boumann. At least Tiller has shown he can play a role within the team.
Mulligan is a kpp and Boumann is neither kpp or HBF.

[GVGjr]

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If Hargrave copped an injury, I would rather play Tiller then Mulligan or Boumann. At least Tiller has shown he can play a role within the team.
Mulligan is a kpp and Boumann is neither kpp or HBF.

I think we have guys like Wood who can play the position and play above his height along with Murphy. With Sherman, Gilbee, Wood, Murphy and even Ward all capable of playing a back flankers role I'm less concerned at our mid sized depth for the back line.

Is it still worth keeping Tiller on just as a depth player? If he's in the best 30 then perhaps that is OK but I'm sure that he is. Won't be too disappointed if we keep him but I think he would be lucky to hold his spot.

[Desipura]

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I think we have guys like Wood who can play the position and play above his height along with Murphy. With Sherman, Gilbee, Wood, Murphy and even Ward all capable of playing a back flankers role I'm less concerned at our mid sized depth for the back line.

Is it still worth keeping Tiller on just as a depth player? If he's in the best 30 then perhaps that is OK but I'm sure that he is. Won't be too disappointed if we keep him but I think he would be lucky to hold his spot.

A good question you ask. The same question I had why we kept Hahn & Eagle and recruited Markovic, all depth players if someone gets injured.

[Cyberdoggie]

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If you don't move players on that have been there long enough then the younger players never get there go.

If we keep players like Hahn, they seem to get opportunities above younger players, whether it be at Williamstown seniors or at the dogs. The point is that they are taking someone elses spot. If they are not in our long term plans and are only there for a depth or "just in case" scenario then the club aren't recruiting strongly enough.

If either of these two play next year then we clearly have no depth.

[LostDoggy]

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I voted no.

[Mantis]

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If either of these two play next year then we clearly have no depth.

We really have no cover for Morris or Hargrave (as mid-sized defenders and not to mention Lake & Williams) so we probably need to keep one of Tiller or Hahn on and with Tiller being 5 or 6 years younger and with room to improve he should be the one picked.

[Bornadog]

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Has been used up forward much in the last 2 years even at Williamstown?
I sort of think we have given up on that for Tiller.

He adds depth but I guess it comes down to if we think he is ahead of Markovic, Mulligan and Boumann.

You can't compare Tiller to those three. They are genuine talls, whereas at best Tiller is a HBF or HFF. I vote yes as a back up to Shaggy and Morris as all are around the same height. However, I don't think Tiller can play on smalls.

[GVGjr]

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You can't compare Tiller to those three. They are genuine talls, whereas at best Tiller is a HBF or HFF. I vote yes as a back up to Shaggy and Morris as all are around the same height. However, I don't think Tiller can play on smalls.

The main point that most have said about maintaining Tiller, even though he really hasn't been able to get onto the park for a couple of years, is he is the only player that can back-up Morris or Hargrave.
If this is such a priority it really makes me wonder why we didn't go after Faulks with more vigor.

[Bornadog]

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The main point that most have said about maintaining Tiller, even though he really hasn't been able to get onto the park for a couple of years, is he is the only player that can back-up Morris or Hargrave.
If this is such a priority it really makes me wonder why we didn't go after Faulks with more vigor.

Maybe we can't see him in any other role. Could he get himself right to be in our best 22, I would then vote a no.

[GVGjr]

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Maybe we can't see him in any other role. Could he get himself right to be in our best 22, I would then vote a no.

Here is the thing. If Markovic is only there to back-up Williams and Lake and is very unlikely to get a game at any other time and Tiller is the same for Morris and Hargrave then I suppose we could have kept Callan on to back-up Wood and Gilbee. Where do you draw the line?
We probably lack a back-up to Jones and Grant so do we keep Hahn on for that reason?

TCD mentioned that Tiller might be a good sub player because of his ability to play both as a defender or a forward and that is the best argument I have read so far for his retention.
I get the logic of why people see some value in him but typically for a player that has had to work through as many set backs as Tiller has when you actually need him there is a chance he will be injured anyway.

[Bulldog4life]

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I would keep Tiller for 2 reasons 1/because of his versatility 2/ injuries ruined 2010 for him and hopefully with a full pre season behind him he could show marked improvement.