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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 17968

    #46
    Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

    Originally posted by arkie
    I can't understand how we could take this guy when we had the chance to take Casley. Based on the assessment by mjp it sounds to me that Casley is a better player.
    I think it's a bit unfair to make a judgement call on Schofield considering a) he hasn't even stepped foot in the Club yet, and b) every club passed over Casley on numerous occasions.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Scorlibo
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 3081

      #47
      Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

      Originally posted by comrade
      I think it's a bit unfair to make a judgement call on Schofield considering a) he hasn't even stepped foot in the Club yet, and b) every club passed over Casley on numerous occasions.
      I've only looked at Casley's highlights video, but he doesn't seem to have much going for him. Decent mark, but not tall enough for a key position at AFL level, very slow, poor kick, there really isn't much to get excited about from his highlights video. I have no idea why anyone would want to pick him up.
      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5096

        #48
        Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

        Originally posted by arkie
        I can't understand how we could take this guy when we had the chance to take Casley. Based on the assessment by mjp it sounds to me that Casley is a better player.
        I struggle to understand comments like this.

        While you obviously have some base knowledge of Casley's ability I am doubtful that you have seen him play, and even if so only on one or two occassions. Further, I would assume your knowledge of Schofield is almost entirely from this thread. So from a brief assesment courtesy of mjp, you have made a clear decision that Casley is a better AFL prospect.

        Surely Dalrymple and company would have spent hours analysing various players, and in the end decided to go with Schofield (who also is a prospective half back, an area which we need replacements in and in which Casley is not adept).
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • boydogs
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 5842

          #49
          Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

          Originally posted by comrade
          I think it's a bit unfair to make a judgement call on Schofield considering a) he hasn't even stepped foot in the Club yet, and b) every club passed over Casley on numerous occasions.
          Same goes for Skinner
          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

          Formerly gogriff

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          • always right
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 4189

            #50
            Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

            Originally posted by arkie
            I can't understand how we could take this guy when we had the chance to take Casley. Based on the assessment by mjp it sounds to me that Casley is a better player.
            Highlight reels cn be misleading but Schofield certainly has a more impressive reel than Casely. Looks like he has an appetite for the ball and is prepared to chase.
            I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6511

              #51
              Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

              I think the hype around Casley has been a touch misleading and rather then being based on performace or ability has been based on the fact that
              a. He was able to kick goals at VFL level and
              b. He's keen on coming to the dogs and is good mates with Liberatore and Wallis
              His reputation as a footballer seems to have been boosted by these two points when really he was unspectacular for a struggling Jets team, was named most consistent at the awards night but didnt make the TAC team of the year nor represent Vic Metro. I wouldnt mind seeing him drafted purely because at this point there isnt much left available, his attitude seems healthy, he is keen on the bulldogs and he has performed against men at senior VFL level. In saying that what position he would best suit Im not sure, probably a hit up half forward where he can use his marking and clean hands (undoubtedly his best asset) but even then Im not sure he has the pace or fitness base to regularly break away from a defender on the lead.

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                #52
                Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                Originally posted by chef
                Like Picken, Libba etc?
                Well, I wouldn't mind another Liam Picken. If Schofield has more or less the same amount of bulldog bite, can't see a problem. That kind of swagger is pretty common these days. CAn anyone be a bit more specific on some incidents re Jayden?

                IF it stays on field and within the rules, then part of the game. What Aker did was outside the game and that's where it can be so damaging.
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7336

                  #53
                  Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                  Originally posted by arkie
                  Based on the assessment by mjp it sounds to me that Casley is a better player.
                  I thought my assessment was pretty positive!
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 17968

                    #54
                    Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                    How misleading can a highlights vid be?

                    Schofield looks like an athletic, running half back who's dangerous around the goals, but has been compared to Josh Carr and Steven Baker by mjp (who's seen him plenty).

                    It will be interesting to see what sort of player he turns into.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      #55
                      Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                      On draft night Kevin Sheahan said that Schofield was a lot like Josh Carr in his apporaoch to the game. I took that to mean that he would do jobs that noone else wanted to do and would do anything to get his team across the line.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9999

                        #56
                        Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Once I get over the disappointment of one of my least liked players being drafted by the Bulldogs I will try.

                        Don't get me wrong - he can play - but does things that only supporters of the club he is playing for would appreciate...home fans love him, opposition hate him. Until yesterday I fell into the latter category.
                        Originally posted by mjp
                        OK. Here goes:

                        - The poster who said 'think Josh Carr' is on the money.
                        - Blinding speed? Haven't really seen it in a game but that said he does receive the ball in space a fair bit...this represents either cheating (my previous take on things) or hard work and hard running (my new assessment).
                        - His decision making is a bit 'down the line' - not particularly inventive with the ball, seems to get a bit of tunnel vision. He is a 70m per possession player though who does try to run his measure and kick long to a target/space. I would like to see him swivel his head more and look to the corridor/open player a lot more but I guess that will come.
                        - Kicks it OK. Serviceable without being brilliant. Think Addison I guess - comes undone due to decisions not due to skills.
                        - Very determined tackler.
                        - Definitely team focused. Played a couple of roles in finals that some other guys who had played in the National champs would have resisted. That said, there were a heap of guys ahead of him in the WA group which was obviously not great this year and didn't win a game against a division 1 opponent.

                        I am somewhere between mildly surprised and completely shocked he has been drafted. But. If we have selected him with the thought that he could have a career similar to say - Josh Carr or even Steven Baker - then I understand it. I guess he has more athletic capability that both of those guys so might end up having a bit more impact on the attacking side of the ball.

                        That is about it.
                        Ho ho. This should be interesting. I wonder what the moral arbiters here on WOOF will say the first time Jayden clocks someone behind play?
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • mighty_west
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3419

                          #57
                          Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                          Originally posted by dfa4pm
                          Ho ho. This should be interesting. I wonder what the moral arbiters here on WOOF will say the first time Jayden clocks someone behind play?
                          As supporters, there are 2 sets of rules, we love it if they are on our team, but want to jump the fence and knock his lights out if they deck one of ours!

                          I felt like doing that when Scotty Chisolm elbowed Chris Grant in the jaw at Optus right in front of all us Dogs supporters.

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                          • EasternWest
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 9999

                            #58
                            Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                            Originally posted by mighty_west
                            As supporters, there are 2 sets of rules, we love it if they are on our team, but want to jump the fence and knock his lights out if they deck one of ours!

                            I felt like doing that when Scotty Chisolm elbowed Chris Grant in the jaw at Optus right in front of all us Dogs supporters.
                            Ha ha, so so true.
                            "It's over. It's all over."

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                            • Dry Rot
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6440

                              #59
                              Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                              Originally posted by dfa4pm
                              Ho ho. This should be interesting. I wonder what the moral arbiters here on WOOF will say the first time Jayden clocks someone behind play?
                              Or the reverse? Barry Hall decked Chris Grant off the ball right in front me at the SCG.

                              Of course, he's a perfect gentleman now in my eyes.
                              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7336

                                #60
                                Re: Welcome to the Dogs Jayden Schofield

                                Originally posted by dfa4pm
                                Ho ho. This should be interesting. I wonder what the moral arbiters here on WOOF will say the first time Jayden clocks someone behind play?
                                I don't think he will do that. What I am saying is he is very aggressive and very team focussed - some of the things Carr did in Port's premiership year were heroic and I think Schofield has a bit of that in him.

                                Behind play? No - but he would enjoy a bit of niggle.
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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