Dogs v Roos in Ballarat

[Cyberdoggie]

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It's pretty well our Top list, but there's still guys knocking on that door

And a couple of injuries.

A big question is: Who will play Full Back?

Lake is injured obviously and so far Markovic has been on trial with some success so far in the pre-season. I believe he may have had a slight injury after the Bunbury game so someone in this squad will have to play the key man in defence. Tom Williams or Morris? or will someone new be pushed back there.

[Bulldog Joe]

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And a couple of injuries.

A big question is: Who will play Full Back?

Lake is injured obviously and so far Markovic has been on trial with some success so far in the pre-season. I believe he may have had a slight injury after the Bunbury game so someone in this squad will have to play the key man in defence. Tom Williams or Morris? or will someone new be pushed back there.

Could that be the spot for Barlow ?

He is tall and athletic and would appear best suited in a negating role.

It looks like they are working on the round 1 side, but injury is keeping out Lake and his understudy Markovic.

Sherman also missing due to injury (I believe).

Of the named list of 25, there are 9 players not universally selected on the forum as best 22.

Stack - he was apparently very good last week
Skinner - Zephaniah is a Bulldog has everyone excited and this indicates in the mix
Liberatore - Is he now ahead of Wallis ?
Barlow - Probably the back up tall option after Markovic if Lake does not come up.
Moles - obviously always close to the 25 anyway
Djerrkurra - In a lot of selections and this is a good sign for him.
Jones - Also looking likely as a marking forward.
Minson - Strong indication that he is ahead of Roughead.
Hill - We know he has the ability.

So for round 1 we have Sherman and Lake/Markovic possibly to come in.

[Cyberdoggie]

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Barlow's strength is his endurance,

I feel that they will try and utilize him as a mobile big man, probably more so in the middle of the ground, maybe a tagging role on tall mobile players such as Pavlich or Kreuzer that could play anywhere. We usually struggle to match on these mobile talls, often we may use Hargrave, Williams or Morris and find that they are probably better left to traditional defensive roles.

Also the new sub rule and 3 interchange will mean that players have to be more versatile and fitter than ever before. Minson and Hudson being very similar may not be the best combination ruck duo anymore. We may have to go 1 old school ruck and a mobile tall/backup ruck that can have more of an impact in general play. Basically a large centerman who can compete for taps.

I haven't seen enough of Barlow to know how he plays but he's the fittest in the club and if he can use this to his advantage he could really help us.

[LostDoggy]

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No Lake again...

So uh when we expecting him back...round 3, 4? or going to play straight up Rd1?

[GVGjr]

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Could that be the spot for Barlow ?

He is tall and athletic and would appear best suited in a negating role.

My view on Barlow is that we could trying him as the 2nd ruckman when we decide to go in with just one guy like Hudson or Minson.
At 196cm and athletic plus he can run with any ruckman in the comp and perhaps use his midfield skills to create match-up issues for them.
We only need him to provide this relief for 5 to 10 minuter per quarter and providing there isn't a goal feast by the opposition against us it he isn't likely to get smashed in the centre square duels.

What I don't want to see is Williams used in this role. With Lake being a late starter to the season (round 3 or 4) and Morris currently not 100% we don't want to take any chances with Williams who has had a more than solid pre-season.

Barlow can provide a some options in the backline or midfield and given that he has very good fitness he shouldn't be a liability for us.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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My view on Barlow is that we could trying him as the 2nd ruckman when we decide to go in with just one guy like Hudson or Minson.
At 196cm and athletic plus he can run with any ruckman in the comp and perhaps use his midfield skills to create match-up issues for them.
We only need him to provide this relief for 5 to 10 minuter per quarter and providing there isn't a goal feast by the opposition against us it he isn't likely to get smashed in the centre square duels.

What I don't want to see is Williams used in this role. With Lake being a late starter to the season (round 3 or 4) and Morris currently not 100% we don't want to take any chances with Williams who has had a more than solid pre-season.

Barlow can provide a some options in the backline or midfield and given that he has very good fitness he shouldn't be a liability for us.

A 196cm rake who doesn't know how to ruck will get firstly, smashed and then destroyed.

Might do some damage running around (if he knows where to run) but could (almost certainly will) give up a few easy centre breaks

[Greystache]

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A 196cm rake who doesn't know how to ruck will get firstly, smashed and then destroyed.

Might do some damage running around (if he knows where to run) but could (almost certainly will) give up a few easy centre breaks

196cm and 99kg is hardly a rake, Hudson and Minson are only 7kg heavier and they are taller.

[GVGjr]

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A 196cm rake who doesn't know how to ruck will get firstly, smashed and then destroyed.

Might do some damage running around (if he knows where to run) but could (almost certainly will) give up a few easy centre breaks

What is the alternative in the games when we want to go into a game with just one ruckman assuming someone has to provide the ruckman with a spell?
If Williams is the player you are suggesting then I've listed the reasons why I don't think it's a good move plus to counter your concerns on the height and weight dimensions of Barlow, Williams is only listed as 1kg heavier and is the same height. In terms of physical strength I would think Williams is far stronger but Barlow is more suited to Williams in running around in the midfield. Neither player is ideal but I'm not sure if we have the right sort of back up options anyway.

I get what you are suggesting but with doubts or concerns on Lake and Morris if someone has to be smashed and destroyed taking their turn in the ruck as you are indicating I'd rather it be Barlow than Williams. Everitt was used in this role from time to time and I'm suggesting Barlow might be able to do something similar.

We have either moved or are considering moving Hargrave to the LTIL and I think we are looking at Barlow more so than Hahn as his replacement. Our midfield doesn't have a lot of vacancies, if any, so if we are going to play him then he might need to be able to adapt to a couple of positions and one of them might be providing some short term relief in the ruck.

[chef]

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What is the alternative in the games when we want to go into a game with just one ruckman assuming someone has to provide the ruckman with a spell?
If Williams is the player you are suggesting then I've listed the reasons why I don't think it's a good move plus to counter your concerns on the height and weight dimensions of Barlow, Williams is only listed as 1kg heavier and is the same height. In terms of physical strength I would think Williams is far stronger but Barlow is more suited to Williams in running around in the midfield. Neither player is ideal but I'm not sure if we have the right sort of back up options anyway.

I get what you are suggesting but with doubts or concerns on Lake and Morris if someone has to be smashed and destroyed taking their turn in the ruck as you are indicating I'd rather it be Barlow than Williams. Everitt was used in this role from time to time and I'm suggesting Barlow might be able to do something similar.

We have either moved or are considering moving Hargrave to the LTIL and I think we are looking at Barlow more so than Hahn as his replacement. Our midfield doesn't have a lot of vacancies, if any, so if we are going to play him then he might need to be able to adapt to a couple of positions and one of them might be providing some short term relief in the ruck.

Hopefully Skinner, but fitness might hold him back at this stage.

[LostDoggy]

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No Lake again...

So uh when we expecting him back...round 3, 4? or going to play straight up Rd1?

Im asking the same question...
Anyone know at this stage when he is due back?

[comrade]

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The Kangaroos website is providing live updates through out the game. It'll obviously be North centric but at least we'll get the scores.

Click here.

[Go_Dogs]

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The Kangaroos website is providing live updates through out the game. It'll obviously be North centric but at least we'll get the scores.

Click here.

Dogs FB page too. North kick the first couple, Grant kicks our first. Zeph the sub.

[comrade]

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Grant first 2 goals for s.

Dogs down by 6.

[LostDoggy]

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Grant has 2. Baz just nailed another against wind

18-18 mid first

[comrade]

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Higgins kicks a goal.

Scores level.