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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5845

    #31
    Re: Rate Our Preseason

    Originally posted by Desipura
    Whilst it was only a practice match, there are some backline issues that we have yet to address.
    Even with Lake in the side, we need more leadership shown back there when we are under the pump and the ball is coming in quickly (midfield pressure will also assist)

    Collingwood have played well against us in recent times due to the way they have been able to negate Lake's influence.
    Rather than bomb it long and enable like to out mark his opponent, whoever plays on Lake is directed to lead out and at best create a contest thus making Lake more accountable.

    A bit more physicality back there would be handy. We need someone back there to say "you better watch over your shoulder cos I am going to hurt you if it is a 50/50 contest", Wood has the physique to be that player whilst providing plenty of run as well.

    Whilst he is not that type of player we need the likes of Williams to really step up and start taking more responsibility rather than just relying on Lake to steady the flow of ball coming in.
    Tommy is yet to show he can match it with the best, we need him to step up now!
    Williams has shown signs of backline leadership during the pre-season. Sounds like he just had his hands full with Petrie yesterday. He was also taken away into the ruck for the last quarter when we were over-run, so it's hard to draw a line through that and say he's not up to delivering on what we need from him this year.
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff

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    • Desipura
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4344

      #32
      Re: Rate Our Preseason

      Originally posted by gogriff
      Williams has shown signs of backline leadership during the pre-season. Sounds like he just had his hands full with Petrie yesterday. He was also taken away into the ruck for the last quarter when we were over-run, so it's hard to draw a line through that and say he's not up to delivering on what we need from him this year.
      Petrie is coming back from injury, Williams should have him covered fitness wise. I never said Tommy is not up to delivering, rather that he needs to deliver this year or at least show some more improvement

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14751

        #33
        Re: Rate Our Preseason

        Originally posted by gogriff
        Cooney, Lake, who is the third? Gia?

        The first two finished last year in worse nick than they are in now.
        Griffen, his shoulder sounds like a bit of a worry.
        The curse is dead.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Rate Our Preseason

          I'm no AFL coach but I'd think a pre season would be used to find out what doesn't work as well as what does work?????
          You have to know you own limitations, so you try stuff till the bubble bursts.

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          • Before I Die
            Senior Player
            • Jul 2008
            • 1033

            #35
            Re: Rate Our Preseason

            Originally posted by Desipura
            Petrie is coming back from injury, Williams should have him covered fitness wise. I never said Tommy is not up to delivering, rather that he needs to deliver this year or at least show some more improvement
            Petrie kicked 4 with 2 or 3 of them being against Williams. Tom was beaten but he didn't have his pants pulled down and he wasn't any worse than any other member of the backline on Saturday. He was also required to take on rucking duties in the final quarter. It wasn't his best ever game, but there was absolutely nothing about his game on Saturday that should cause any concerns amongst supporters.
            The Angels have the phone box. [SIZE="2"]Don't blink![/SIZE]

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #36
              Re: Rate Our Preseason

              Another point. We looked really good last year in NAB cup. And where'd it get us?
              Hopeufully taking a more laxed attitude we will do better in the season proper

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15548

                #37
                Re: Rate Our Preseason

                Originally posted by Danstar
                Another point. We looked really good last year in NAB cup. And where'd it get us?
                Hopeufully taking a more laxed attitude we will do better in the season proper
                Our form in the NAB Cup was completely over-stated, but gained focus becuase we kept winning.

                We played good in the first half against Hawthorn in week 2 and in the 2nd half against St.Kilda in the final... the rest wasn't great.

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14751

                  #38
                  Re: Rate Our Preseason

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Our form in the NAB Cup was completely over-stated, but gained focus becuase we kept winning.

                  We played good in the first half against Hawthorn in week 2 and in the 2nd half against St.Kilda in the final... the rest wasn't great.
                  Yep, we were lucky to just beat both Brisbane and Port.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #39
                    Re: Rate Our Preseason

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Our form in the NAB Cup was completely over-stated, but gained focus becuase we kept winning.

                    We played good in the first half against Hawthorn in week 2 and in the 2nd half against St.Kilda in the final... the rest wasn't great.
                    True. But winning makes most of us look past actual form.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67706

                      #40
                      Re: Rate Our Preseason

                      Originally posted by Danstar
                      True. But winning makes most of us look past actual form.
                      The pre-season is a time for players to get some touch with the footy, for coaches to experiment with positions, tactics, game plans etc. You really can't read too much into it.

                      If you are rating the preseason you really have to look at individual players and how they are travelling ie coming back from injury, fitness levels, form etc.

                      Our biggest concern with the pre-season is the backline with Lake, Morris, Murphy, Hargrave all sustaining, or coming back from injury. The only one left standing is ironically Tommy.
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