Is Modern Footy Boring!

[Cyberdoggie]

Thought i'd raise this topic,
probably not the best timing as i've just witnessed us get a pantsing from the old enemy.


Basically what i'm getting at is that i'm finding this new wave style of football with the forward press very dull and boring.

Perhaps it's the lack of any forward structure where a key forward would provide a lead, take a strong mark against his opponent and then line up and take a shot.

I find most of the goals today are from fast breaks from 1 side if they manage to penetrate the zone, and as the the numbers push forward it becomes a game of cat and mouse to isolate the extra numbers, then walk into an open goal or take a shot.

If a key forwards role is to now just be one of a number of players that sit slightly forward of the play and not an actual forward target then i think they have invented a different game because it doesn't resemble anything that i want to watch.

The dogs game may of just been an anomoly but after trying to watch the saints v cats game i fear that this will become the norm before too long, and i'm afraid it will kill football as i know it if this is the case.


Thoughts?.......Perhaps i am reading it wrong.

[Cyberdoggie]

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Mods if this should be in the AFL forum please feel free to move it,
Just realized this after i posted it.

[LostDoggy]

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For me when the western bulldogs lose it's boring. Don't care how we win games.

[Cyberdoggie]

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For me when the western bulldogs lose it's boring. Don't care how we win games.

So if we played a game like Geelong and Stkilda did everyweek, but as long as we won it would be ok?

[Sockeye Salmon]

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So if we played a game like Geelong and Stkilda did everyweek, but as long as we won it would be ok?

Nope.

I'm with you on this one, CD.

Footy is boring as batshit and if it wasn't for the Dogs I wouldn't bother with it.

The players are incredibly skilled and amazing athletes but the game itself is pure crap.


Friday night was as bad a game as I've ever had the misfortune to watch (although there might have been a good patch somewhere in the middle but I wouldn't know because I was having a little nap).


Bumping has become practically impossible without getting suspended, you can't take possesion or you run the risk of being gang-tackled and done for HTB, and you can't try to gain a few metres for your team when you're under pressure for fear of it going OOB.


Now I follow the footy pretty closely but there would have easily been more than a dozen instances on the weekend where the whistle went and I had to look at the umpire to see who's free it was, then even after watching the replay I had no idea what it was for.


This is not an umpire bashing exercise, it's not their fault. The game has become un-umpirable.


The single biggest issue is that defenders can't defend, they're impotent.

It started by penalising a player for diving on the ball, then deliberate OOB, then hands in the back and chopping the arms, then deliberate rushed behinds.

All designed to make it easier for forwards.

Now it's so hard to defend that coaches have to drop players behind the ball because even the best defender in the world can't stop a gumby one-on-one.

[always right]

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If you watched St Kilda and Geelong play you would have been bored into a comatose state.

If you had watched the Adelaide v hawthorn match your faith in footy would have been restored.

If I was an Essendon supporter yesterday I would heve been pretty excited about the state of footy.

[Cyberdoggie]

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If you watched St Kilda and Geelong play you would have been bored into a comatose state.

If you had watched the Adelaide v hawthorn match your faith in footy would have been restored.

If I was an Essendon supporter yesterday I would heve been pretty excited about the state of footy.

I saw bits of the carlton and richmond game, as well as the adelaide v hawks game and i admit it wasn't as bad as the other two games.

Taking my WB blinkers off i just found the lack of 1 on 1 contests and the inevitability of the forward play so dull.

When Essendon would get the ball off us they would just handball it around, move forward in a pack, work out they had an extra person running forward than we did running back, draw that player and run into the goal.
It was like watching school children play where 1 kid is twice the size of all the others and he just picks it up and runs the length of the ground, but a whole team of them doing that.
Obiviously this was working for them and they didn't need to do much else but i found that without players up forward working to provide a lead when their team mates have the ball up the ground, and some good duels between a key forward and key defender where they battle it out, try and get the jump on the other on the lead or out muscle each other, then there was just nothing to watch.

Same when we went forward, how often would someone like gia or griffen end up with the ball on the wing and realize that because of the forward press, there is no forwards leading up at them. So they just slow down wait for numbers, chip it around to isolate someone for an easy mark.

Boring!

[LostDoggy]

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The fish rots from the head

[Bornadog]

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Nope.

I'm with you on this one, CD.

Footy is boring as batshit and if it wasn't for the Dogs I wouldn't bother with it.

The players are incredibly skilled and amazing athletes but the game itself is pure crap.


Friday night was as bad a game as I've ever had the misfortune to watch (although there might have been a good patch somewhere in the middle but I wouldn't know because I was having a little nap).


Bumping has become practically impossible without getting suspended, you can't take possesion or you run the risk of being gang-tackled and done for HTB, and you can't try to gain a few metres for your team when you're under pressure for fear of it going OOB.


Now I follow the footy pretty closely but there would have easily been more than a dozen instances on the weekend where the whistle went and I had to look at the umpire to see who's free it was, then even after watching the replay I had no idea what it was for.


This is not an umpire bashing exercise, it's not their fault. The game has become un-umpirable.


The single biggest issue is that defenders can't defend, they're impotent.

It started by penalising a player for diving on the ball, then deliberate OOB, then hands in the back and chopping the arms, then deliberate rushed behinds.

All designed to make it easier for forwards.

Now it's so hard to defend that coaches have to drop players behind the ball because even the best defender in the world can't stop a gumby one-on-one.

The AFL admisitrators have spoilt what is the best game in the world. These stupid rule changes have ruined the spectical. Mark my words, the sub rule will change again and we don't even know why they introduced a sub?

As you say SS its over officiated and we can't even blame the umps as they are carrying out what Vlad and his side kick ask them to do.

[LostDoggy]

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So if we played a game like Geelong and Stkilda did everyweek, but as long as we won it would be ok?

Yepp don't care about others clubs or the game itself.

[LostDoggy]

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I've been saying for the last 2 seasons that StKilda is the most boring team we've seen since i can remember.
They are (or have been) a good side, but easily the team most likely to wonder what the lawn bowls on ABC is up to.
It is a shame too, with the midfield they have they could be a very entertaining running/scoring team. The worst is they have the ability to suck the life out of the opposition brining them down to their boring system.

[SonofScray]

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Agree with a lot of what is being said. On one hand I don't care much for the game, its the Club I worry about and invest in, if we were playing tiddly winks that's what I be talking about. If we winning, its all good.

Aussie Rules is an ordinary game really, the players cannot execute the skills required at a level you'd expect from professionals. Compare the mastery of a skill set between the AFL and most other professional leagues worldwide and we rate very poorly. Beyond that the tampering of the rules has made it tough to follow at times and certainly encouraged a style of play that just isn't exciting.

[mjp]

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Aussie Rules is an ordinary game really, the players cannot execute the skills required at a level you'd expect from professionals. Compare the mastery of a skill set between the AFL and most other professional leagues worldwide and we rate very poorly.

I'll bite.

Like WHAT other professional leagues?

[mjp]

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The AFL admisitrators have spoilt what is the best game in the world. These stupid rule changes have ruined the spectical. Mark my words, the sub rule will change again and we don't even know why they introduced a sub?

The sub was introduced as an injury reduction measure, one of the supposed 'pillars' of the rules of the game committee. The idea is that teams will be forced to leave players on the ground longer, meaning collisions will not occur at the same velocity...

As you say SS its over officiated and we can't even blame the umps as they are carrying out what Vlad and his side kick ask them to do.

Over officiated? Not sure about that. The number of free kicks is not the problem (back in the 60's/70's free kick counts in excess of 80 - with just one umpire - were commonplace). There have been some rule changes that have made life difficult for everyone to understand what they are supposed to do.

[LostDoggy]

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Agree with a lot of what is being said. On one hand I don't care much for the game, its the Club I worry about and invest in, if we were playing tiddly winks that's what I be talking about. If we winning, its all good.

Aussie Rules is an ordinary game really, the players cannot execute the skills required at a level you'd expect from professionals. Compare the mastery of a skill set between the AFL and most other professional leagues worldwide and we rate very poorly. Beyond that the tampering of the rules has made it tough to follow at times and certainly encouraged a style of play that just isn't exciting.

This is a good post.
Apart from the "rate very poorly" part.
I too am more of a club follower than a game fan.
Also I think the league is far too wrapped up in changing the rules than letting the guys play the game.
I'm all for eliminating any punches thrown but some of the contacts that go on report are a joke. It's a contact game for gods sake.