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  • stefoid
    Senior Player
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    Guido into defence

    Discuss....

    pros:
    • good user of the ball, rarely turns it over and often puts it to advantage
    • gets one of our good users of the ball involved in a more proactive role, rather than being dependent on work down field - same argument as murphy playing back.
    • plays taller than he is



    cons:
    • may not be able to adapt to a defensive position
    • pace could be an issue
  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15321

    #2
    Re: Guido into defence

    How does he player taller than he is?... If this was the case I would think he would be strong in the air, but I can't remember him taking a strong contested mark against his opponent.

    His lack of pace is an obvious issue too.

    A big NO from me on this suggestion.

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    • ratsmac
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2009
      • 3974

      #3
      Re: Guido into defence

      No from me too.

      Cons: running around like a headless chook.
      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
      Brian Fantana.

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      • the banker
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 453

        #4
        Re: Guido into defence

        Cant see this working. Gia is one of our better converters. Seems well suited to current role to me.

        Hill, Murphy, Picken, Addison and even Cross look better suited to a defensive role IMO.
        Cross could go back and we could look for more speed through the midfield or introduce Wallis.
        WesternOval'61

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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #5
          Re: Guido into defence

          As the 7th defender, yes from me.

          If you're looking to play him on an opposition forward, then a resounding NO from me.
          [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15321

            #6
            Re: Guido into defence

            Originally posted by Greystache
            As the 7th defender, yes from me.
            I still can't see him being particularly effective in this role because even though he is a good distributor of the ball he isn't going to influence an aerial contest in the way you would like this person too.

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13187

              #7
              Re: Guido into defence

              PROS to playing down back: certainly doesn't play taller than his 6 feet but reads the ball very well through the air and can create space for himself despite his obvious lack of pace. He's smart.

              CONS to playing down back: Too valuable for the backline and a real worry that opposition coaches will try to get a pacy forward on him to make him accountable. Would struggle to get to contests down back whereas he makes the contest up forward, so pace not so much of an issue. Unless Vez or DJ are ahead of him he needs to play in the forward line with stints in the middle to give other mids a chop out.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Ghost Dog
                WOOF Member
                • May 2010
                • 9404

                #8
                Re: Guido into defence

                Anything is better than a repeat of the Essendon game. He's the Ricky Ponting of our football club.
                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66112

                  #9
                  Re: Guido into defence

                  NO thank you, robbing the forward line with his goal assists and goals he kicks.

                  Last year kicked 35, plus 23 goal assists.

                  I can't see him as a defender at all.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15321

                    #10
                    Re: Guido into defence

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Anything is better than a repeat of the Essendon game. He's the Ricky Ponting of our football club.
                    How so?

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #11
                      Re: Guido into defence

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      Anything is better than a repeat of the Essendon game. He's the Ricky Ponting of our football club.
                      Comparing one of our greatest players of all time to Daniel is funny!
                      I hope you're referring to the stick Ponting gets

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #12
                        Re: Guido into defence

                        A born leader. Let's not forget, a hair's breadth away from being Captain. Many here would have been ok with having him as captain, while not jumping for joy.
                        Yet he cops a great deal of stick and his form can be very very frustrating. Does great things, cementing his spot in the side, teasing with a promise of more. Flashes of brilliance.
                        Yet perhaps just a bit too overconfident, or swanning along on his natural brilliance, causing lapses when simple the simple rules should apply.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15321

                          #13
                          Re: Guido into defence

                          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                          A born leader. Let's not forget, a hair's breadth away from being Captain. Many here would have been ok with having him as captain, while not jumping for joy.
                          Yet he cops a great deal of stick and his form can be very very frustrating. he will do enough to keep himself in the team, deservedly so, teasing with a promise of more. Flashes of brilliance.
                          Yet perhaps just a bit too overconfident, or swanning along on his natural brilliance, causing lapses.
                          Ponting has shown more than a flash of brilliance over his career, he is quite possibly our best batsman since Bradman and when the dust settles he will go down as an all time great.

                          You comparing him to Gia is laughable.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            #14
                            Re: Guido into defence

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Ponting has shown more than a flash of brilliance over his career, he is quite possibly our best batsman since Bradman and when the dust settles he will go down as an all time great.

                            You comparing him to Gia is laughable.
                            Current era. Recent History Mantis.
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15321

                              #15
                              Re: Guido into defence

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Current era. Recent History Mantis.
                              Rightly or wrongly Gia has been copping flak for his whole career.

                              Ponting has only started copping it over the past 18 months and well after 13 or 14 years of elite performances.

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