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  • Bulldog Revolution
    Coaching Staff
    • Dec 2006
    • 3933

    #1

    Dogs V Swans Match preview

    Last time

    Whilst in 2008 and 2009 the gap between 4th and 8th place on the ladder was significant in 2010 it was not. In last years finals the Swans beat Carlton by a goal and then were beaten by a goal by the Dogs, highlighting that the gap between 4th and 8th was not much.

    In the Qualifying Final last year the Swans seemingly had the Dogs on toast, and were skipping clear midway through the second quarter only to be reeled back in. Goodes, Shaw, McGlynn were running all over the ground but then Andrew Hooper on debut kicked a goal reducing the margin to 16 points at half time and the Dogs outmuscled the Swans in the second half thanks to Cross, Gia, Murphy and co.

    Form

    Since the last meeting the Swans have changed coach with longtime assistant Longmire taking the reigns. With the youth (Jetta, Rohan, Reid, Dennis Lane) and recruits (Mumford, McGlynn, Kennedy, Seaby) introduced in 2010 they'd have to be hopeful things were looking up. I have to confess to having seen little of the Swans in 2011 apart from a dreadful final quarter against the Dees in round 1 where they did very well not be overrun.

    The Dogs prez Smorgo has talked premierships but the actions of the coaching staff have been to promote youth and inexperience: Libba, Wallis, Markovic, Roughead, Djekerra, Jones etc suggesting that they believe the side needs a more serious makeover to once again challenge for silverware.

    Hard to get a line through both teams form at this stage, well maybe its just that as a Dogs fan its a painful reality that we just haven't been good. The Dogs have been nothing better than patchy, beating two of the main wooden spoon contenders. The Swans would have to be judged in better form having beaten improvers Essendon and West Coast, whilst only narrowly losing to the also hot Blues.

    Injuries

    Sydney Swans

    Daniel Bradshaw (knee) - indefinite
    Campbell Heath (knee) - 1 week
    Kieren Jack (ankle) - 4-6 weeks
    Alex Johnson (hamstring) - test
    Nick Malceski (knee) - 2-3 weeks
    Gary Rohan (knee) - indefinite

    Western Bulldogs
    Daniel Giansiracusa (hamstring) - test
    Barry Hall (ankle) - 2-3 weeks
    Shaun Higgins (groin) - test
    Ben Hudson (ankle) - test 

    Easton Wood (ankle) - 4-5 weeks
    Patrick Veszpremi (hand) - 2 weeks

    Selection table

    Swans:
    Kieran Jack's ankle injury robs the swans of one of their most dynamic midfielders, with Brett Meredith perhaps most likely to replace him, whilst Malceskis absence weakens their depth of running defenders. Grundy is expected to return and may likely match up dog Liam Jones. Without the underrated Bradshaw out they are robbed of the best forward, and Jesse White's form is once again an issue for the Swans match committee to consider but they'd be likely to play him against the Lake-less dogs.

    Dogs:
    Hall's injury also robs the dogs of their best forward, whilst Higgins is an emerging star capable of playing forward and midfield, whilst Lakes demotion to the VFL changes the look down back for the Dogs. Giansiracusa and Hudson are likely to return and Roughead will be dropped after Minson played with the oomph of a man who had not had a run all year. There might be other changes to the fringes of the team

    Who will win, and why?

    The Dogs have performed well against the Swans recently, and at Manuka, apart from the late regular season debacle at the SCG when Cooney and Morris were injured early.

    On form its hard to tip the Dogs in this one, but I'd like to think the character of the group and the senior core could find a way to impose their will on this one. You would have to hope that we could match their in and under types of Bolton and Kennedy midfield and then its really a question of whether we can find some drive, in the form of outside run, to cut them up. Griffen is absolutely the key to us winning, and gee if ever we'd like to see twinkle toes Cooney carve up Manuka Oval it is Saturday.

    The Swans are missing some damaging players but still have Goodes, the underrated McGlynn, etc

    Head V Heart?

    The head says Swans have too much run for us, but that would be boring

    Dogs by 1 point

    I'll leave others to comment on key matchups as I've seen too little of the Swans
  • Ozza
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Mar 2008
    • 6402

    #2
    Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

    Thanks for the preview BR. I think an important aspect you noted was the 'run' of the swans.
    Due to the Swans being a contested footy focussed, relatively slow side - it appears often forgotten how quick they are these days.

    I'm glad Kieran Jack is out - he was a nightmare for us late last year.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67688

      #3
      Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

      Thanks BR great preview.

      Who do you think will match up on Goodes? He always seems to play well against us and is in good form this year.
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Thanks BR great preview.

        Who do you think will match up on Goodes? He always seems to play well against us and is in good form this year.
        He's a tough one to match up on - he is athletic, has a big tank and is surprisingly tall! He does usually play well against us (unfortunately). I am having trouble remembering who usually gets the job?

        Thanks for the preview BR!

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        • SlimPickens
          Coaching Staff
          • Aug 2010
          • 2929

          #5
          Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

          Originally posted by Magic Griffen
          He's a tough one to match up on - he is athletic, has a big tank and is surprisingly tall! He does usually play well against us (unfortunately). I am having trouble remembering who usually gets the job?

          Thanks for the preview BR!
          You'd have to go with Morris wouldn't you?
          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67688

            #6
            Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

            Originally posted by SlimPickens
            You'd have to go with Morris wouldn't you?
            Morris usually picks him up in the forward line, but can't remember who goes with him when he plays the ruckrover type of role.
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            • SlimPickens
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2010
              • 2929

              #7
              Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Morris usually picks him up in the forward line, but can't remember who goes with him when he plays the ruckrover type of role.
              They dropped White, so thinking he'll play forward the majority. If he goes in the midfield- Boyd head to head.
              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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              • Maddog37
                WOOF Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3132

                #8
                Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                Williams will get him.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Morris usually picks him up in the forward line, but can't remember who goes with him when he plays the ruckrover type of role.
                  With Goodes , yes Morris when he's forward , in the midfield probably Picken , he's strong enough to pressure him into mistakes

                  .

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                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6011

                    #10
                    Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                    Originally posted by Maddog37
                    Williams will get him.
                    If I remember right Williams had him last year at times and Goodes kicked some easy goals on him.

                    Williams seemed to be half asleep when Goodes went on the lead.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                    • Maddog37
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3132

                      #11
                      Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                      Reckon Tom was injured that night. Goodes is too big for Morris and too fast and agile for Marko IMO.

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                      • Bulldog Revolution
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3933

                        #12
                        Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                        Originally posted by Bornadog
                        Who do you think will match up on Goodes? He always seems to play well against us and is in good form this year.
                        I agree with others that when he plays forward Williams seems the logical choice

                        I feel like we have had more success with not throwing the Gorillas to Morris this year, even though Goodes is not a gorilla hes still very big. Morris is perhaps the ideal option to have up our sleave should it all go wrong.

                        If he has bursts in the midfield I'd guess Boyd, given McVeigh will likely run with Griffen or Conney

                        Originally posted by Hotdog60
                        If I remember right Williams had him last year at times and Goodes kicked some easy goals on him.

                        Williams seemed to be half asleep when Goodes went on the lead.
                        Tommy did seem to drop off Goodes too far on the leads and allowed him to get some relatively easy touches, I guess they'd be hoping that it could be a lesson learnt

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                        • egan-kennedy-ford

                          #13
                          Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                          Morris has a great record with taller opponents and will keep up with Goodes on the ground. I think he'll get the job when Goodes goes forward.

                          Goodes isn't a pack marking gorilla type, most of his grabs are on the burst. The main thing, though, is that he's really footy smart and Morris is the best equipped to deal with his tricks.

                          I've liked Griffen when he's been given a more defensive element to his role this year. It seems to sharpen him up. Goodes can be exposed defensively when opposed to a hard runner - I think Griffen would be a ripping match up.

                          Agree with the thoughts on Keiran Jack, with Jack out I think we can win the contested footy which will go a long way to determining the game.

                          The Swans other gun in tight this year has been Josh Kennedy, who has a big body and good endurance. He is a tricky match up, maybe a mixture of Boyd and Griffen, with Griffen going to Goodes when he is in the midfield?

                          I think Picken will take the other main midfield weapon, McVeigh.

                          Pretty exciting times with all the new faces. I am still upbeat about our prospects this year - although we are a fair way off the pace we have plenty of upside.

                          Forward structure this week will be interesting, still a lot of work to be done there. Need Jarrad Grant getting involved in more passages. Liked Liam Jones deep.

                          Would love to see Zeph Skinner start and show some real intent, especially defensively. He is the sort of character that can energise a team. If he lays a couple of big tackles early, I can see the likes of Grant lifting immensely.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15547

                            #14
                            Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                            Thanks BR for doing a fine effort at short notice.

                            The Sydney team looks a little light on in the talent stakes and if we can keep a couple of their key players down (Goodes, McGlynn, Shaw) we should be able to record a win.

                            Our defensive match-ups will be intriguing, especially with regard to Goodes and to a lesser extent McGlynn. As others have suggested Williams would probably go to Goodes which will allow Morris to go to McGlynn... bad luck Benny.

                            If our intensity is on par with how it's been over the past couple we will win.

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                            • Lake Superior

                              #15
                              Re: Dogs V Swans Match preview

                              Originally posted by Hotdog60
                              If I remember right Williams had him last year at times and Goodes kicked some easy goals on him.

                              Williams seemed to be half asleep when Goodes went on the lead.
                              Wouldnt say he was half asleep Goodes was just way to quick off the mark for Williams. I'd prefer to see Morris take him when he is up forward

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