Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

[Scorlibo]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

No way. I have to disagree. How many points did they kick??

Simply looking at scoring shots can be misleading, a lot of their points came from difficult shots where they blazed, if you're counting every point as a missed goal you're looking at it the wrong way.

The free kicks ended up 25-14 against us, it should have been in our favour considering how often we were first to the ball. Especially in the first quarter when we were dominating, the umpires stopped the momentum with their whistle blowing, all of a sudden the Swans sneaked home a couple of goals and they're within a goal of us at quarter time?! That would have been one of the most unfair scoreboard reflections on general play this year at quarter time. We should have been 5 goals up, if you don't believe me go watch the replay.

It's a big ground that's suited us very well in the past. Why not now?

I didn't say it didn't suit us, just that it's not home, where it definitely suits us. New team, new setup, the addition of different grounds doesn't help.

IMO we do not ALL like being underdogs. What we need / want is a culture of success and to be TOP dogs. I have being everyone's second team, the air of 'failure' ...the dismal 'blue collar' also rans. We have to shake this.

I agree with your views on the club, but looking from an on-field performance perspective, we seem to have been hailed as top dogs to kick off the year for the last three years, and all three years we have had shocking starts. Therefore I, personally, feel more comfortable coming from where we are now.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

Simply looking at scoring shots can be misleading, a lot of their points came from difficult shots where they blazed, if you're counting every point as a missed goal you're looking at it the wrong way.

The free kicks ended up 25-14 against us, it should have been in our favour considering how often we were first to the ball. Especially in the first quarter when we were dominating, the umpires stopped the momentum with their whistle blowing, all of a sudden the Swans sneaked home a couple of goals and they're within a goal of us at quarter time?! That would have been one of the most unfair scoreboard reflections on general play this year at quarter time. We should have been 5 goals up, if you don't believe me go watch the replay.



I didn't say it didn't suit us, just that it's not home, where it definitely suits us. New team, new setup, the addition of different grounds doesn't help.



I agree with your views on the club, but looking from an on-field performance perspective, we seem to have been hailed as top dogs to kick off the year for the last three years, and all three years we have had shocking starts. Therefore I, personally, feel more comfortable coming from where we are now.

Ok Scorlibo, it's good to read a diversity of opinions. I certainly admire those who are 'cool' with the loss. I wish I felt their calm sense of surety.
The worst thing was, I really wanted to pick us this week but couldn't. We have the Cahoonas but often, we seem to lack the poise to dispose correctly. More calm, just hitting targets and doing the simple things, we'll win more than we lose.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

Ok Scorlibo, it's good to read a diversity of opinions. I certainly admire those who are 'cool' with the loss. I wish I felt their calm sense of surety.

I can't say I truly fit the calm description, at roughly 2:30pm yesterday I was shouting at the telly like a madman, but it's hard to explain the momentum in a game of footy, you can just feel it swing and deviate, and today I just felt, even when shouting, that with a different dealing of luck and chance we could have run in easy victors - which is maybe why I was so frustrated.

[Desipura]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

I'm glad I opted to spend time with my young kids and watch the game when they went to sleep.
It would have felt like a waste of a day, next week against the red hot tigers is going to be very difficult I feel.

[the banker]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

Time is running out for us to make something of the season. Wins over the Tigers and Eagles are essential but look problematic. Losses will see the season unravel very early.

Think the rucks are a major problem, every time Hudson gets the ball I think we are 50/50 for a turnover. Will can get his hand on it but very rarely to advantage and Roughead looked incredibly slow against Collingwood.

We desperately need Hall and Lake back and firing.

Morris, Murphy, Griffen, Picken, Ward, Boyd have set the tone with great endeavour and commitment, however skill errors and 1%ers from many of the others have sapped us of momentum at times.

Where there is life there is hope.

Would rarely comment on this but I thought the umpiring influenced the result. Thought the same thing about it in the Rich-Freo game, but Richmond overcame it!!

Dig deep dogs.

[Ghost Dog]

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I can't say I truly fit the calm description, at roughly 2:30pm yesterday I was shouting at the telly like a madman, but it's hard to explain the momentum in a game of footy, you can just feel it swing and deviate, and today I just felt, even when shouting, that with a different dealing of luck and chance we could have run in easy victors - which is maybe why I was so frustrated.

And for this reason, I almost always watch the footy alone!~
Well, the thing is, almost everyone picked us to win here on woof, which surprised me. There is at times a sense that we have been contenders for so long that it's 'our time' and the league 'owes us'.
Too used to going up to Manuka and running all over them.
I could never really see us getting there at the moment. Our f50 entry is just a wing and a prayer, but mostly, I can't sense any kind of plan - or poise. My hearts in my mouth often when our senior players kick the ball..... it just seems a bit ad hoc going in. our backs look solid mind you. Marco is a great kid, I love him.

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

No way. I have to disagree. How many points did they kick??

6 of their first 8 goals were either directly from frees or the play was started by a free.

The umps were a big factor.

It's a big ground that's suited us very well in the past. Why not now?

Because we have become lazy.

Many of our players don't lead to position, instead they stand around waving their arms in the air waiting for a precise kick to hit them on the chest.... and our kicking isn't a strength.

[SonofScray]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

I can't say I truly fit the calm description, at roughly 2:30pm yesterday I was shouting at the telly like a madman, but it's hard to explain the momentum in a game of footy, you can just feel it swing and deviate, and today I just felt, even when shouting, that with a different dealing of luck and chance we could have run in easy victors - which is maybe why I was so frustrated.

Every time we score one or two in a row I get the sense we've hit our straps and will start playing to our ability, that the previous quarter was just a case of coaches resting players etc. In the past a qtr here and there has got us over the line so it didn't frustrate me so much. Now I am struggling to even enjoy the good patches in a game because it is more than likely that they won't go on with it.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

Malthouse to finish career where it started!!!

[Ghost Dog]

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Malthouse to finish career where it started!!!

Man...your user name made me LOL. Classic.

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

Ted Richards suspended for 1 week for hit on Gilbee, yet no free kick on the day.

yep, umps killed us all day.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

On the game: No comment. Sorry, trying to stay positive.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Fair enough.

I just can't get my head around someone being effective, when the stats show otherwise.

The stats say Boyd had 33 touches @ 67% which means he had 22 effective disposals - comfortably more than anyone else on our side.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

The stats say Boyd had 33 touches @ 67% which means he had 22 effective disposals - comfortably more than anyone else on our side.

I am with you.

It's one thing to see weaknesses in quality players but I think a lot of posters are misguided in the blame they place on players like Boyd and Cross. These guys are making the most of their efforts. If there are issues on their accountability, I place most of the blame on Rocket anyway who has them in leadership roles. I really believe these guys can be part of a premiership side. Don't blame Boyd because his 40 touches aren't Gilbee circa 06-08, blame the guys who aren't getting near it in the first place.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R7 Western Bulldogs vs Sydney Swans

The stats say Boyd had 33 touches @ 67% which means he had 22 effective disposals - comfortably more than anyone else on our side.

What if we didn't have him? That's the easiest way to measure how effective he is.