Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Spot on mantis, Cross, Higgins, Gia and Boyd basically let their opposite number do what they like.

Cross moved onto Mitchell and he only gathered a further 2 possessions from that point on, which was I think just before half time. Not sure if Cross was a culprit in the non-manning up charge

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Spot on mantis, Cross, Higgins, Gia and Boyd basically let their opposite number do what they like.

These 2 are clearly the worst... Like pointing their fingers, but aren't willing to work hard to pick up a man.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Marks 61 Dogs 180 Hawks , Tackles almost even 60 Dogs to 63 Hawks , Disposals 299 Dogs 439 Hawks , Hitouts 29 Dogs 42 Hawks

Not sure what to make of it , a bit more intensity in the first half but no impact on the scoreboard , a quiet period where they got ahead , after HT when BBB was Subbed off we lifted again

Chances of making the 8 seemingly slipping away

Positives :

Howard had a go but was a little lost in the second half , will be better for the experience
Wallis had a go made more tackles than any other player on either team

Negatives :

Hall and Lake should not have been selected to play , Jones should been at FF , Markovic should have at FB

.

Our 'press' just falls to pieces with our current work rate - or lack of it

[Bornadog]

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Murphy is currently our only player that might sneak into Hawthorn's top 5.

Griffen, Murphy, Picken, you didn't rate their games?

[Mantis]

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Our 'press' just falls to pieces with our current work rate - or lack of it

We were man on man when Hawthorn had the ball in stopped ball situations, but we just weren't discplined enough to deny Hawthorn the outlet pass.

[Greystache]

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What chance do you have when only one or two members of your leadership group show enough effort and desire to pick up a man.

It is the easiest task to do, but it must be beneath a few if our leaders.. It's bullshit!!!

Higgins and Gia, wow just wow. It's like watching two half forwards from the 80's.

I had to laugh in the last quarter when those two are standing side by side pointing at each other while Guerra hits up a leading forward for the 6th time. Then two minutes later Higgins berating Libba for not chasing after Higgins opponent as he streams through the midfield all alone.

[comrade]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Griffen, Murphy, Picken, you didn't their games?

It's a pointless exercise but I mean in general class.

Franklin
Rioli
Hodge

are better than anyone in our team (currently).

Roughead and Mitchell also have claims.

Only Murphy and Griffen would be thereabouts.

[Mantis]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Higgins and Gia, wow just wow. It's like watching two half forwards from the 80's.

I had to laugh in the last quarter when those two are standing side by side pointing at each other while Guerra hits up a leading forward for the 6th time. Then two minutes later Higgins berating Libba for not chasing after Higgins opponent as he streams through the midfield all alone.

Or when Guerra kicked a goal when we were making a little run in the last when Higgins refused to chase him.

Libba copped it a few times from Higgins..... Awesome leadership. .... I would have told him to F*** OFF!!!

[Bornadog]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Marks 61 Dogs 180 Hawks , T
Positives :

Howard had a go but was a little lost in the second half , will be better for the experience
Wallis had a go made more tackles than any other player on either team

Negatives :

Hall and Lake should not have been selected to play , Jones should been at FF , Markovic should have at FB

.

The marks difference was due to the uncontested Marks in the Hawks backline up and down up and down chriss crossing tell they could get through our zone.

I thought Lake got better as the game went along and he will be better for the run. Hall had no hope marking the ball when he was surrounded by three players and we kicked the ball in the air to him and not on the chest.

One positive, although not great but a glimmer of hope was we won the second half. The negative of course is three goals in the first half killed us.

Special mention must go to Morris, Buddy goal less in the second half, punching out of his weight division but beat him one on one overall for the game.

[Prince Imperial]

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Slap: pretty good game by Gia on his 200th
Slap: efforts from Howard particularly early showed promise

Sledge: need more out of both Ward and Sherman in the midfield
Sledge: coach and match committee for selections of Lake and Gilbee

[comrade]

Re: Game Day 2011 - R10 Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn

Higgins and Gia, wow just wow. It's like watching two half forwards from the 80's.

I had to laugh in the last quarter when those two are standing side by side pointing at each other while Guerra hits up a leading forward for the 6th time. Then two minutes later Higgins berating Libba for not chasing after Higgins opponent as he streams through the midfield all alone.

It's up to Eade and the MC to highlight this footage during the week and make a point of it. If nothing comes of it, the same players will continue to bring the same sub par work rate and we will continue to be smashed by the good teams and destroyed by the great teams.

We have too many lazy players and it's time that the MC sets the standard. Lake and Gilbee got a reprieve and didn't repay the faith. They need to have a spell, as does Higgins.

Gia is at least dangerous up forward but watching him get run down by Puopolo after having a good 15 metres on him was painful.

[LostDoggy]

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Or when Guerra kicked a goal when we were making a little run in the last when Higgins refused to chase him.

Libba copped it a few times from Higgins..... Awesome leadership. .... I would have told him to F*** OFF!!!

Only listened to the game but saw footage of this incident on the 7.00pm news! I nearly choked on my dinner? WTF! Surely our "leadership" group have to be hauled over the coals for this? IMO, the more experienced guys should be the ones who are setting the example in every way, and this will just drag the younger guys along with them - they will be willing to work as hard as they can under that kind of leadership. Sounded like Murph, Morris and Griff were the only ones out there at times during the radio call.....

[Bornadog]

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It's a pointless exercise but I mean in general class.

Franklin
Rioli
Hodge

are better than anyone in our team (currently).

Roughead and Mitchell also have claims.

Only Murphy and Griffen would be thereabouts.

Sorry, Rioli was beaten today by Picken. He basically negated him and didn't have the influence he normally has on a game.

[SonofScray]

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I can't see how Higgins' selection is justified. He has given us nothing, showed some terrible leadership tonight and just has not got any weapons in his arsenal at the moment. His selection is a blight on the coach and selection panel.

Beyond that, his general application and output is so terrible that his reputation as a future star, captain or whatever surely has been damaged. With regards to the the Libba incidents, along side the handful of times he watched his man gallop away and refused to work, instead following the play into the defence and starting to 'marshal' the players was shocking. Made him look like an absolute tool from up where we were.

Injuries or not, put simply, he does not deserve selection. At all. Play someone with something to offer.

[comrade]

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Sorry, Rioli was beaten today by Picken. He basically negated him and didn't have the influence he normally has on a game.

He was negated by Picken, not beaten. I love Picko, by the way.

I'm talking in general, not just on today's game. Murphy and/or Griff are currently our only 2 players who would be thereabouts if we we ranking both team's top 5 players.