O'Shea in 2008

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: O'Shea in 2008

    I have not seen him play. Hows his disposal and marking? Is he a smooth mover or is he a bit ungainly? (like tiller)

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44747

      #17
      Re: O'Shea in 2008

      Originally posted by jerry
      I have not seen him play. Hows his disposal and marking? Is he a smooth mover or is he a bit ungainly? (like tiller)
      Great leap, below average skills, decent mover. They need to do a bit of work on him but there is still plenty to like about him.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #18
        Re: O'Shea in 2008

        Reckless bordering on suicidal?

        He shall be called RAMBO from this moment on.

        Play him on the first round of the NAB Cup and we'll have 10,000 new members

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        • Topdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7471

          #19
          Re: O'Shea in 2008

          Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
          Borderline suicidal?..............eeeeeeeexcellent.
          My thoughts exactly.

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          • Dry Rot
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6450

            #20
            Re: O'Shea in 2008

            Having been reading very favourable comments recently about O'Shea - anyone care to expand on that?
            The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44747

              #21
              Re: O'Shea in 2008

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Great leap, below average skills, decent mover. They need to do a bit of work on him but there is still plenty to like about him.
              Originally posted by Dry Rot
              Having been reading very favourable comments recently about O'Shea - anyone care to expand on that?
              I suppose the thing that I noticed yesterday was that, as Doc put it, he was more self assured during the training drills. If his skill level and decision making improve then he he should figure prominently for the senior Seagulls side. Physically he has matured nicely but there are still a few footy things he needs to work on.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15337

                #22
                Re: O'Shea in 2008

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I suppose the thing that I noticed yesterday was that, as Doc put it, he was more self assured during the training drills. If his skill level and decision making improve then he he should figure prominently for the senior Seagulls side. Physically he has matured nicely but there are still a few footy things he needs to work on.
                Do you think we put too much expectation early on, on players such as O'Shea, Wood and Reid to name a few on our list who come from Non Traditional football backgrounds. So its only natural that they may take longer to develop? Even Addison was from NSW not a strong football state but he is finally establishing himself in our best 22 last year.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66870

                  #23
                  Re: O'Shea in 2008

                  Originally posted by bobmurphy
                  Do you think we put too much expectation early on, on players such as O'Shea, Wood and Reid to name a few on our list who come from Non Traditional football backgrounds. So its only natural that they may take longer to develop? Even Addison was from NSW not a strong football state but he is finally establishing himself in our best 22 last year.
                  I thought Wood is a Victorian?

                  We do put high expectations on these young players, especially the Queensland boys.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44747

                    #24
                    Re: O'Shea in 2008

                    Originally posted by bobmurphy
                    Do you think we put too much expectation early on, on players such as O'Shea, Wood and Reid to name a few on our list who come from Non Traditional football backgrounds. So its only natural that they may take longer to develop? Even Addison was from NSW not a strong football state but he is finally establishing himself in our best 22 last year.
                    It's a good point you make about the non traditional AFL states but supporters put too much emphasis on every draftee to come in and make a difference from their first season.

                    I am constantly amazed how often I see and hear comments about guys like Jarrad Grant, for example, must start making an impact this year. Never mind that he has been training with the rehab guys for many weeks and had the dreaded OP last year, some people feel that if he can't play senior football from round 1 this year then he is a waste of an early draft pick.

                    I'm fairly certain he will play senior football this year but if its 2 games or 10 it won't really alter my opinion of him that much. Some guys can come in and play straight away like Cooney and Griffen but the problem is that many supporters feel that every draftee should be able to do the same or something very close to it.

                    The coaches want to see these guys succeed so their introduction to the senior side is more often than not carefully managed.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44747

                      #25
                      Re: O'Shea in 2008

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      I thought Wood is a Victorian?

                      We do put high expectations on these young players, especially the Queensland boys.
                      In Woods case a non traditional AFL background ie athletics over footy as a youngster.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Bumper Bulldogs
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2987

                        #26
                        Re: O'Shea in 2008

                        [QUOTE=GVGjr;68411

                        The coaches want to see these guys succeed so their introduction to the senior side is more often than not carefully managed.[/QUOTE]

                        Spot on I for one would be happy to wait an extra year and then have the guys around for the nest 10 years than take a punt and end up like Zac Dawson!!

                        Anyway we are in no hurry as the side did finish 3rd last year.
                        BB.

                        Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #27
                          Re: O'Shea in 2008

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I suppose the thing that I noticed yesterday was that, as Doc put it, he was more self assured during the training drills. If his skill level and decision making improve then he he should figure prominently for the senior Seagulls side. Physically he has matured nicely but there are still a few footy things he needs to work on.
                          He will have to force Meyer, Wight and Cloke out of the backline. Everitt might be at Willi as well, at least some of the time, anyway.

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6529

                            #28
                            Re: O'Shea in 2008

                            I have said it before but i am a massive rap for this kid, love his attack on the footy and his athleticism. If he becomes a good player for us it would be a massive bonus and i could see him playing roles at both ends of the ground.

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3702

                              #29
                              Re: O'Shea in 2008

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              He will have to force Meyer, Wight and Cloke out of the backline.

                              If the club didn't think he was capable of forcing any of these out he would have been delisted.

                              Remains to be seen if the clubs' faith is vindicated.
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15337

                                #30
                                Re: O'Shea in 2008

                                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                                He will have to force Meyer, Wight and Cloke out of the backline. Everitt might be at Willi as well, at least some of the time, anyway.
                                Doesnt Cloke mainly play ruck / roaming forward? Either way if he's good enough he'll play Williamstown firsts.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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