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  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5842

    Club Communication

    How happy is everyone with the communication from the WB to its supporters? We seem to be left in the dark a lot, particularly with regards to selections and injuries. It seems like these days you learn more about what's going on around the club from Aker than you do from the club itself, and the negative way he spins it hurts our image.

    5 questions to highlight my point;

    1. Why isn't Barry Hall back yet?
    2. What are we doing with Cooney?
    3. Is Higgins injured?
    4. Why did we bring Lake back then drop him again, and now bring him back again without showing form at Willy?
    5. What's with the late changes for the Hawks game?
    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

    Formerly gogriff
  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15210

    #2
    Re: Club Communication

    Club communication is ok. But I dont think we the supporters need to know what is happening on the injury front or why Lake was dropped. Hall is playing tomorrow and the changes for the hawks game have somewhat been explained.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #3
      Re: Club Communication

      Don't really have an issue with these sorts of things staying in-house. I know, members are stakeholders etc etc, but I really don't see why we as outsiders, need to know every move that's being made (or not being made), and the why's and wherefores. Pretty sure other clubs would be similar.

      As to the questions, Hall's playing tomorrow isn't he? He had surgery, and has needed time (he's 34 remember) to get his body right. Cooney's injured, the club has made mention of this already.
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Club Communication

        What has Aker told us that we don't already know?

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        • boydogs
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 5842

          #5
          Re: Club Communication

          Originally posted by azabob
          Hall is playing tomorrow
          Sorry I read somewhere he was dropped from the extended bench, my mistake

          Originally posted by AndrewP6
          Don't really have an issue with these sorts of things staying in-house. I know, members are stakeholders etc etc, but I really don't see why we as outsiders, need to know every move that's being made (or not being made), and the why's and wherefores. Pretty sure other clubs would be similar.
          It makes it difficult to feel as though you are part of the club and involved in the goings on if you're left guessing as to what's happening.

          Originally posted by AndrewP6
          Cooney's injured, the club has made mention of this already.
          What are we doing with the injury? Does he need surgery? How long will he be out for? Will he be back to his best when he comes back?

          Originally posted by Glove38
          What has Aker told us that we don't already know?
          Cooney's knee, Lake's unprofessionalism, Tommy's confidence. A lot of his remarks weren't quite true, but it took him mouthing off before the club came out and gave us the full story. It would be nice to see us be a bit more proactive in telling fans what's happening, then Aker wouldn't have the opportunity to paint the picture for us instead.
          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

          Formerly gogriff

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 17924

            #6
            Re: Club Communication

            Why would we (actively) publicly comment on such things and give our opponents any insights that may help them better prepare for us? This is a cut throat competition - disclosing any unnecessary information would just be stupid.

            It seems some people are trying to find any excuse to pot the Club at the moment.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • AndrewP6
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2009
              • 8142

              #7
              Re: Club Communication

              Originally posted by gogriff
              What are we doing with the injury? Does he need surgery? How long will he be out for? Will he be back to his best when he comes back?
              They've said it will just need to be managed, doesn't seem to be degenerative and at the moment doesn't require surgery. As for the last question, how is anyone supposed to be able to determine that? Crystal ball required.



              Originally posted by gogriff
              Cooney's knee, Lake's unprofessionalism, Tommy's confidence
              The first has been reported on, the second unsubstantiated (at the moment) and the third is plainly obvious. Or so I thought.

              I get what you're saying, but I just don't think it's necessary..
              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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              • jazzadogs
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Oct 2008
                • 5576

                #8
                Re: Club Communication

                I have no problem with the way the club communicates in regards to player injuries and attitudes. I agree that this kind of information should be kept in-house.

                However their communication in other areas, such as the Bulldog magazine and our weekly emails, could do with a bit more imagination and information.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66138

                  #9
                  Re: Club Communication

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs

                  However their communication in other areas, such as the Bulldog magazine and our weekly emails, could do with a bit more imagination and information.
                  At a guess, the people employed to do this are probably not up to standard.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44315

                    #10
                    Re: Club Communication

                    The club has a long way to go with the basics of communication.

                    Just some areas that they could assist the average supporter with:

                    - Injury lists to be updated every week including long term injury list promotions.
                    - Training sessions.
                    - What color jumper we will wear each week.
                    - Upcoming functions, including the various supporter group activities
                    - Informative Williamstown reports (how great would that be for the country, interstate and overseas supporters)

                    There is heaps more they could improve on.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17924

                      #11
                      Re: Club Communication

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      The club has a long way to go with the basics of communication.

                      Just some areas that they could assist the average supporter with:

                      - Injury lists to be updated every week including long term injury list promotions.
                      - Training sessions.
                      - What color jumper we will wear each week.
                      - Upcoming functions, including the various supporter group activities
                      - Informative Williamstown reports (how great would that be for the country, interstate and overseas supporters)

                      There is heaps more they could improve on.
                      I agree that improving the communication of the above topics would be beneficial for supporters. The type of information that gogriff requested we make public is completely unnecessary.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66138

                        #12
                        Re: Club Communication

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        The club has a long way to go with the basics of communication.

                        Just some areas that they could assist the average supporter with:

                        - Injury lists to be updated every week including long term injury list promotions.
                        - Training sessions.
                        - What color jumper we will wear each week.
                        - Upcoming functions, including the various supporter group activities
                        - Informative Williamstown reports (how great would that be for the country, interstate and overseas supporters)

                        There is heaps more they could improve on.
                        Hopefully the new person will be better:

                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #13
                          Re: Club Communication

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          The club has a long way to go with the basics of communication.

                          Just some areas that they could assist the average supporter with:

                          - Injury lists to be updated every week including long term injury list promotions.
                          - Training sessions.

                          - What color jumper we will wear each week.
                          .
                          The first two are on the website, aren't they?
                          Why the third one? Do people care?
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44315

                            #14
                            Re: Club Communication

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            I agree that improving the communication of the above topics would be beneficial for supporters. The type of information that gogriff requested we make public is completely unnecessary.
                            There is certainly a need to be selective with the information and I agree that GoGriff's request list was unrealistic.
                            The communication flow from the club however, has been a bugbear of mine and I hope that things eventually improve.

                            If I went back quite a few years back, we had 2 or 3 excellent communication managers in succession and as quickly they were provided with feedback on opportunities to improve they jumped on them. I'm not sure if it was the tightening of the reigns by Rose or a level of complacency by some of the team over recent years but I've given up on trying to point them in the right direction as they don't even bother to respond.

                            I rarely log onto the clubs website as it just isn't informative.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44315

                              #15
                              Re: Club Communication

                              Originally posted by AndrewP6
                              The first two are on the website, aren't they?
                              Are they updated regularly or are they accurate?
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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