Round #10 - Slaps and Sledges

[LostDoggy]

Re: Round #10 - Slaps and Sledges

Slap -
Griffen for going at it all game, and pretty much on one leg.
Morris for being his consistent hard working self & on someone who's a head taller and well looked after.

Sledge -
Overall lack of sticking with opponents.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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Slap - Griffen as he was the only Dogs that tried to take the game on and get us going.
Morris beat Buddy today, he got a couple from 'Poor" umpiring decisions and had plenty of supply
Wallis and Howard for good solid games today.

Sledge - First the MC as they picked Hall, Lake, Gillbee & Higgins and had Hill on the bench far to long
Higgins for the number of times he didn't man up his man, when Mitchell marked inside F50 he pointed to Griff then walked up the field, just not good enough.
Gilbee has to be out of credits now so just play Howard.
Hall & Lake well not sure but them had shockers, Hall got two hands on 4 balls the first 1/2 and split all chances.

[Mofra]

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Slap -
Griffen was sensational - 19 touches & 5 tackles to halftime and only injuries slowed him
Jones' hands on the HF line - really looked like an AFL standard CHF today
Williams showed a bit today...

Sledges -
... as a small forward. Tommy, you're 6 foot 5 and weigh nigh on 100kg. Use it.
Hall. Looked nowhere near it today

[Remi Moses]

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Slaps- Howard Promising start
Slaps - Morris great effort on Buddy
Slaps- Griffin great today worked his arse off

Sledges- holding the ball , it's official you can have 15 min to rid of the thing
Sledge- Higgins, clear winner in the finger pointing 3 votes
Ditto Brian Lake
Sledge - lack of work as a side and the lack of run and carry
Sledge - the season still has 13 frigging games to go

[Sedat]

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Slap - Griffen and Murphy, for their willingness to take the opposition on and move the ball with some forward momentum.

Sledge - workrate, especially Higgins. Noted several times already but his unwillingness to close the space and allow Guerra to kick the sealer when we were still somehow in the hunt was mind-bogglingly lazy. 299 possessions indicated an overall lack of workrate to get the ball, Hawthorn's 180 marks was a terrible indictment on our willingness to try and win the ball back off the opposition.

[Scorlibo]

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Slaps

- Ryan Griffen is now one of the best midfielders in the competition. He is consistently outstanding and will become huge later in the year with additional support from Cooney and Higgins.

- Robert Murphy would make any team, if a real Australian team was picked (not a pat on the back, meaningless AA 'team') he would have to be one of the first picked.

- Williams up forward. He was a key component of a mini comeback, although not sure of how viable an option up forward he will be in the future considering Grant and Jones will hold the key positions.

- Daniel Cross' job on Mitchell in the second half. This must become his new role as a defensive player.

Sledges

- Tom Liberatore wasn't good enough today

- Sam Reid wasn't good enough today and has no place in the side, not now and not anytime soon. Trade.

- Easton Wood wasn't good enough today

- Liam Jones wasn't good enough today

- The general stream of criticism on this forum. What is the POINT in continually potting players like Gia and Higgins, when they aren't even close to being as bad as the above mentioned players.

- Barry Hall, we are a better side without him, he is slow and can't take contested marks = useless and an easy rebound for the opposition.

- Mitch Wallis, I don't care how many tackles you laid today, because most of them were a result of being second to the ball, being too slow, and not having any sense for the flow of the play. Stop-start, chip kick crap. Get better or get going.

- Liam Picken, the hero of the woofers, you constantly butcher the ball.

- Lindsay Gilbee, needs to start believing in himself. Did not see him once run by for the handball, completely uncreative from defense when we needed it so badly.

- The coaches. There seems to be no capacity for motivation in our coaching ranks anymore, and no sense of purpose in creating a settled team. The best teams are those which are settled, I understand that injuries have worked against us, but ffs how is any player supposed to find form being constantly switched around the ground week to week, quarter to quarter and having very, very few constants within the team. Pick a best team and stick to it.

[Topdog]

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- The general stream of criticism on this forum. What is the POINT in continually potting players like Gia and Higgins, when they aren't even close to being as bad as the above mentioned players.

- Mitch Wallis, I don't care how many tackles you laid today, because most of them were a result of being second to the ball, being too slow, and not having any sense for the flow of the play. Stop-start, chip kick crap. Get better or get going.

I'm just going to highlight these 2 comments and let you guess my thoughts.

[Sedat]

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Sledges

- Tom Liberatore wasn't good enough today

- Sam Reid wasn't good enough today and has no place in the side, not now and not anytime soon. Trade.

- Easton Wood wasn't good enough today

- Liam Jones wasn't good enough today

- The general stream of criticism on this forum. What is the POINT in continually potting players like Gia and Higgins, when they aren't even close to being as bad as the above mentioned players.

- Barry Hall, we are a better side without him, he is slow and can't take contested marks = useless and an easy rebound for the opposition.

- Mitch Wallis, I don't care how many tackles you laid today, because most of them were a result of being second to the ball, being too slow, and not having any sense for the flow of the play. Stop-start, chip kick crap. Get better or get going.

- Liam Picken, the hero of the woofers, you constantly butcher the ball.

- Lindsay Gilbee, needs to start believing in himself. Did not see him once run by for the handball, completely uncreative from defense when we needed it so badly.

- The coaches. There seems to be no capacity for motivation in our coaching ranks anymore, and no sense of purpose in creating a settled team. The best teams are those which are settled, I understand that injuries have worked against us, but ffs how is any player supposed to find form being constantly switched around the ground week to week, quarter to quarter and having very, very few constants within the team. Pick a best team and stick to it.

Interesting post. You pot a number of other posters for criticising Higgins and Gia in particular but your post is littered with criticism of a number of players as well as the coaching staff. Not disagreeing with some of what you wrote but surely others have the right to express their views in a negative manner as they see it, much as you've done above.

PS - what you wrote about Wallis (the highlighted part above) surely can apply to Higgins ten-fold. Wallis' propensity and willingness to tackle certainly sets him apart from Higgins. I actually agree with what you wrote about Wallis being 2nd to the ball but for a 3rd gamer he will adjust to the flow of senior football.

[AndrewP6]

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- The general stream of criticism on this forum. What is the POINT in continually potting players like Gia and Higgins, when they aren't even close to being as bad as the above mentioned players.

The point is they are senior leaders of the team. The ones you've potted are kids still learning to become AFL footballers.

- Mitch Wallis, I don't care how many tackles you laid today, because most of them were a result of being second to the ball, being too slow, and not having any sense for the flow of the play. Stop-start, chip kick crap. Get better or get going.

Mitch Wallis is eighteen. EIGHTEEN. Give him a break.

[AndrewP6]

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Slaps

Morris for his work punching above his weight on "Three Strikes" Franklin.
Howard, did enough to suggest he can play an important part in the team
Griff for working his tail off.

Special mention to Tommy for his forward line foray.

Sledges
- Anyone who kicks it forward to a one on three. Bloody hell, that story is getting old.
- Our slow, lazy players.

[Scorlibo]

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I'm just going to highlight these 2 comments and let you guess my thoughts.

Your thoughts are that my comments contradict each other? Incorrect.

I said it was silly to pot players like Higgins and Gia who were in out best ten players.

I then potted Wallis, who isn't, and who has not given us much at all in his three opportunities.

Interesting post. You pot a number of other posters for criticising Higgins and Gia in particular but your post is littered with criticism of a number of players as well as the coaching staff. Not disagreeing with some of what you wrote but surely others have the right to express their views in a negative manner as they see it, much as you've done above.

PS - what you wrote about Wallis (the highlighted part above) surely can apply to Higgins ten-fold. Wallis' propensity and willingness to tackle certainly sets him apart from Higgins. I actually agree with what you wrote about Wallis being 2nd to the ball but for a 3rd gamer he will adjust to the flow of senior football.

Gia and Higgins don't deserve half the criticism leveled at them. That is why I defend them, not because of some hatred of expressing negative views. Go nuts - like I did - but don't forget to be fair in your assessments. The continuous anger at Gia and Higgins isn't fair.

I have no doubt that Wallis can adjust to the flow of the game, but at this stage he is nowhere near being an effective cog in any given running play. Higgins on the other hand has proven that he is a good reader of the play, rarely if ever gets caught without getting a positive possession away, and is usually first to the ball.

The point is they are senior leaders of the team. The ones you've potted are kids still learning to become AFL footballers.


Mitch Wallis is eighteen. EIGHTEEN. Give him a break.

Mitch Wallis is a member of the Western Bulldogs Football Club selected 22 players.

Shaun Higgins is a member of the Western Bulldogs Football Club selected 22 players.

Forget age, this is all you should be looking at, I'm not saying that Wallis can't get better, I'm saying that until he does he shouldn't be playing.

[Topdog]

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In our best 10? Did you watch the game @ Etihad stadium?

[AndrewP6]

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Mitch Wallis is a member of the Western Bulldogs Football Club selected 22 players.

Shaun Higgins is a member of the Western Bulldogs Football Club selected 22 players.

Forget age, this is all you should be looking at, I'm not saying that Wallis can't get better, I'm saying that until he does he shouldn't be playing.

OK then, I won't add anything else, the staggering absurdity of this last sentence astounds me.

[Sedat]

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Gia and Higgins don't deserve half the criticism leveled at them. That is why I defend them, not because of some hatred of expressing negative views. Go nuts - like I did - but don't forget to be fair in your assessments. The continuous anger at Gia and Higgins isn't fair.

We'll have to agree to disagree specifically in relation to Higgins. Hawthorn won this game with their rebound drive off half back, and the likes of Guerra and Birchall were simply given far too much time and space on the ball to distribute it further afield with precision.

[A dogs life]

Re: Round #10 - Slaps and Sledges

Slaps

- Ryan Griffen is now one of the best midfielders in the competition. He is consistently outstanding and will become huge later in the year with additional support from Cooney and Higgins.

- Robert Murphy would make any team, if a real Australian team was picked (not a pat on the back, meaningless AA 'team') he would have to be one of the first picked.

- Williams up forward. He was a key component of a mini comeback, although not sure of how viable an option up forward he will be in the future considering Grant and Jones will hold the key positions.

- Daniel Cross' job on Mitchell in the second half. This must become his new role as a defensive player.

Sledges

- Tom Liberatore wasn't good enough today

- Sam Reid wasn't good enough today and has no place in the side, not now and not anytime soon. Trade.

- Easton Wood wasn't good enough today

- Liam Jones wasn't good enough today

- The general stream of criticism on this forum. What is the POINT in continually potting players like Gia and Higgins, when they aren't even close to being as bad as the above mentioned players.

- Barry Hall, we are a better side without him, he is slow and can't take contested marks = useless and an easy rebound for the opposition.

- Mitch Wallis, I don't care how many tackles you laid today, because most of them were a result of being second to the ball, being too slow, and not having any sense for the flow of the play. Stop-start, chip kick crap. Get better or get going.

- Liam Picken, the hero of the woofers, you constantly butcher the ball.

- Lindsay Gilbee, needs to start believing in himself. Did not see him once run by for the handball, completely uncreative from defense when we needed it so badly.

- The coaches. There seems to be no capacity for motivation in our coaching ranks anymore, and no sense of purpose in creating a settled team. The best teams are those which are settled, I understand that injuries have worked against us, but ffs how is any player supposed to find form being constantly switched around the ground week to week, quarter to quarter and having very, very few constants within the team. Pick a best team and stick to it.

Do you not think it is a bit late in Gilbee's carreer to try and get him to beleive in himself. I thought he would have done this by now.