I fear for the club unless Eade goes

[Ghost Dog]

Re: I fear for the club unless Eade goes

I agree entirely with Chops. The current form malaise is not a product of Rodney Eade's coaching but a combination of several important players being injured or unfit, introducing many young players to the team and a disappointing lack of application in some cases.

I doubt if anyone would argue that Ron Barassi was not a great coach however his record illustrates that if you "haven't got the cattle"" you simply don't win.
From 1993 to 1995 he coached the Sydney Swans to 13 wins and 45 losses.

It is a cop out just to sack a coach when things get a little tough.

In general, agreed.


But, It can also be a cop out to say " oh we don't have the cattle". Are we utilizing our resources as best we can?
Essendon are an example here. Not an expert on Essendon but not a greatly changed list since last year. Am I wrong?

The success of Sydney 2005 and Saint Kilda for the past three years demonstrated a team over individual approach that got every last ounce out of itself.
Play tough, tight and clean, week in week out and even without a Cyril Rioli or a Daisy Thomas, you'll win more than you lose. You might even entertain your supporters. We are a much better side than we show at the moment IMO.

[Hotdog60]

Re: I fear for the club unless Eade goes

Have you forgotten some of the great players we have had over the past 20 years?

I know we have had some great stars Grant, Hawkins, Wynd, Wallis etc. Don't get me wrong we have had the talent but the sides that have won the premierships seem to have an x factor that always rises to the top when needed.

[Bornadog]

Re: I fear for the club unless Eade goes

I know we have had some great stars Grant, Hawkins, Wynd, Wallis etc. Don't get me wrong we have had the talent but the sides that have won the premierships seem to have an x factor that always rises to the top when needed.

Personally, I think the teams that win premierships have luck with injury for the year, have a settled side and play as a team.

We have had injury to key players, we haven't been settled at all, probably contributed to by the injuries and we are not playing as a team.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: I fear for the club unless Eade goes

To me this is not a question of if Eade can coach as he has a clearly demonstrated track record. His coaching credentials are very strong and we would be hard pressed to find someone with a better demonstrated performance.

The question is more about Eade's ability to take the club to a grand final within the next two years and if he has the list to do it?
Lets face it, he isn't going to be offered a 3 year deal.

Port were struggling with a similar dilemma a couple of years back and were faced with making a hard call on a very successful coach who took them to a premiership but ultimately they had doubts on his ability to get the club back on track.
They reviewed the pro's and cons of all the likely candidates and they kept coming back to the fact that they already had a successful coach.

The problem for Port, and one that I hope we don't experience, was that it quickly became evident after signing him up again for 2 years that Williams couldn't take the group further and the scrutiny of the media, sponsors and fans became too much for the club and they had to move him on an wear all the problems/costs that go along with terminating a coaching contract mid season.
Port, who like us are not not flush with funds, are still struggling with getting a couple of those big decisions wrong and it has set them back for a number of years.

It's a massive decision for our club despite having a terrific coach already in the position.
If the group finishes the season off strongly and gets back to playing the type of football we nearly all believed it is capable of then the decision is an easy one.
If we limp through the balance of the season then the Port experience comes into play and the decision to reappoint becomes increasingly more difficult.

Interesting post GVG, and the comparison to Port is a good one.

Might I add, what has cost port is their inability to install a leadership group of quality.
I refer to Motlop and the rest. Most fans will blame the coach before the players,
but a new coach has not solved their problems greatly on field and many point the finger at their older players.

We also have question marks over our leadership group, as it opens up vacancies
and waits for a few ekers or a youngster to step up to the plate.

[LostDoggy]

Re: I fear for the club unless Eade goes

Personally, I think the teams that win premierships have luck with injury for the year, have a settled side and play as a team.

We have had injury to key players, we haven't been settled at all, probably contributed to by the injuries and we are not playing as a team.

Bang on.
The teams that do well are the teams with a lot of consistancy and luck on their side.

[LostDoggy]

Re: I fear for the club unless Eade goes

I think its very important to realise that every team is in a cycle,

Wake me when we get onto Geelongs cycle.
Last 7 seasons they have made the finals 6 times, have had 6 top 4 finishes, 4 top 2 finishes, 2 preliminary finals, 4 Grand finals, and Two Premierships.
This year they might slip to second place behind Collingwood, maybe? You could be adding one to all of the stats above also????